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Evenings with Aaron and Jeshua – April 12, 2017

Living with Love in a World Filled with Fear and Anger

Aaron: My blessings and love to you all. I am Aaron. (pausing to read the online names)

I do love this technology that lets us gather together, so many of you friends from all over, and sit and talk together. It takes me back almost 30 years to Barbara and Hal’s living room and people gathering there. We need a little fireplace here.

Our topic tonight is, living with love in a world filled with fear and anger. We begin with the small world of the self, living with love in a self that is filled with fear and anger, and then maybe in a home filled with fear and anger, and then a village, and then a city, and then a country, and then a world.

How do you live with love in a self that is filled with fear and anger? Do you scold yourself? Do you say, “No anger permitted here.”, which is just more anger? Do you act out the anger? It doesn’t do, of course, to try to stifle it or to act it out.

I want to share with you a few lines from the Buddhist scripture, Dhammapada, Verse 222.

“I see that those who contain anger, as a charioteer controls a speeding chariot, are fully in charge of their lives. Others are merely keeping their hands on the reins.”

You can envision the charioteers, a whole line of them, racing around the arena. The horses are filled with energy, charging ahead. The charioteers are all holding the reins. With some, there’s fear and uncertainty communicated through the reins. They’re not really in control of the chariot. Either the horses are leading the way, or the charioteer is pulling back so hard that the horses cannot move freely.

(pause for technical difficulties, remote connectors can hear but cannot see Aaron) I’d rather just sit for 2 or 3 minutes until we can see each other. So I’d invite you now just to meditate. (pause) Breathing in and aware of impatience, if it has arisen. “This isn’t what I signed up for. I was supposed to be able to see Aaron.” Well, isn’t it a miracle that you can hear me? But still, impatience arises. The important point is that the impatience is not bad, it simply arose from conditions. If certain conditions are present, things will arise. When the conditions pass, they will pass.

The question is not what arises; you are simply deepening in the certainty that the objects will arise if the conditions are not yet purified. The question is, how do we relate to what arises. If you stub your toe, there will be pain. Do you then kick harder at the rock, with anger at the rock? Do you walk around gritting your teeth and pretending you didn’t stub your toe? Or do you sit and gently, lovingly hold the foot and give the pain time to resolve?

It’s the same with anger as with a physical sensation, and impatience is a form of anger. So if any of you in the room here or on the Zoom session are feeling impatience, let us hold that impatience with kindness in ourselves. Breathing in, I am aware of impatience. — I see a blue light! (meaning the camera is now working) I am aware of impatience or irritation, grasping, whatever it may be. Just opening your heart to yourself. Let’s just sit for a minute, holding space.

(sitting)

(further technical difficulties for several minutes)

Just breathing in and out and hold space for any emotion. This is really the heart of my talk anyhow, so it’s a perfect opportunity to practice.

(pause)

So, anger will arise, and you note that the Buddha did not say, no anger but… let me read it again: “I see that those who contain anger are fully in charge of their lives.” He did not say those who have no anger, only, those who contain anger.

What does it mean to contain anger? It means to be present with it and understand that the conditions for its arising have not yet been purified; that when we take care of our anger it doesn’t control us. When we take care of the horses’ energy through the reins, they can’t run away, and they won’t pull the shoulders out of their sockets, through fighting with them. Just communicating is the answer: slow down, slow down. (raising his arms) Pulling back on the reins and communicating: slow down. To ourselves— here’s the bit in my mouth— slow down, slow down.

When we practice in that way we begin to form a different relationship with anger. Simply knowing it as having arisen, as impermanent, and that we don’t have to do anything but take care of it, is the practice. It will go. Until we have the capacity to do that within ourselves we cannot do it for our families, our community, our world. People get so riled up, and then they want to fight back. People have forgotten how to listen to themselves and to each other. This capacity to listen is my first point in healing anger.

I was passed an interesting story today, about a man on a TED talk show. He was talking about how we respond to others, taking part in the world but not from a place of fear. Part of his story was about someone who burst into a bank and said, “Give me $2,000. I have a bomb, and if you don’t give me $2,000 I’m going to blow up the bank.” The bank manager looked at him carefully. She didn’t scream. She didn’t rush to grab $2,000. She said, “I’m curious. You say you want $2,000. Why do you want $2,000?” The man said, “My dear friend is going to be evicted unless he has $2,000 by tomorrow, so I need $2,000.” She smiled and said to him, “Then you don’t want to rob a bank, you just need a loan. Come with me to my office. We’ll fill out the forms.” I can’t vouch for the truth of this, but it comes through a reliable source. Whether it happened or not, the real question is, in that situation would you have listened that carefully, or would your fear have taken over? Stories— how do I fix this? Anger, lack of control. Are you listening? Why does he need $2,000?

There was recently a physician who was pulled of a United Airlines flight. Some of you may have seen the film of it on the news. They asked him to leave the flight. They had overbooked it, but apparently, they had overbooked it because there were four United staff people who wanted seats. That raises a bit of concern, why they get priority. He said, “I am not getting off. I’m a doctor and I have to be back at the hospital tomorrow morning.” They literally dragged him off the flight; there’s a picture of him being dragged down the aisle. Blood is coming from his nose and mouth. They pulled him off the flight, and then he ran back on, saying, “I must be on the flight. I have to make the flight.” But nobody asked him, “Why do you have to make the flight?” This seems like the core question that would be asked before the was asked to disembark. So much less anger that way!

 When we listen to ourselves and to each other, this is one of the strongest diffusers of anger and fear, because people who hear each other are connected heart to heart. You may not agree with each other but at least you’re listening to each other.

First we need to start listening to ourselves. What fear, what impatience, anxiety, irritation, has arisen in me just now, and how am I relating to it? Am I listening to myself? A fear, this won’t work out, that won’t work out? A fear, my needs won’t be met?

My second point: at the beginning there needs to be a clear sense of intention. You must know where you’re going if you want to get there. If you’re driving with friends down a road and you come to a big sign with two arrows that say, “To the Beach. To the Mountain.”, do you stop the car and have an hour-long discussion of where you’re going? Hopefully before you got in the car you decided, “I’m going to the beach,” or to the mountain. Then you come to the road sign and you know which way to turn.

If, similarly, your intention is to get rid of anything that is uncomfortable for you, to always feel in control, when something happens, like a man running into the building saying, “I want $2,000 or I’ll bomb the place,” can you hear him? If your spouse, parent, or child says, “I’m really angry about this,” can you pause and hear what’s really happening with that person? Or are you too busy trying to do damage control by getting them quiet? What’s making this person angry? What’s happening? What triggered this particular outburst of anger?

You can do it with yourself. When anger comes up, what triggered it? What’s happening? You do it with others. When enough of you develop the capacity to do this, you will begin to model a different relationship with heavy emotion. Gradually that model will spread.

So now I want to pass this to Jeshua, give him a chance to give his 20-minute opening talk, and then we will open the floor to your questions. Certainly I have not nearly even scratched the surface of the topic. But let’s invite Jeshua in.

(Aaron trying to start a new file for Jeshua) The iPad downloaded a new operating system last night while she slept, and Barbara spent several hours today trying to figure out how it works. She went to sleep with it working fine; she woke up with it saying you now have OS-something— Panther, Tiger, Werewolf, whatever. It is recording. Jeshua will come in.

Jeshua: What a lovely situation, and how good to see all your faces and feel your energy. Thank you for being here with me. I am Jeshua, and I love you all. Thank you, Aaron. It feels a bit strange to call this friend Aaron, since in our last lifetime together he was Nathaniel. But I will call him Aaron because that’s how you know him. And the names don’t matter anyhow. We are just energy, just light. The personality and name is only the clothing on the surface, nothing of ultimate importance.

(pausing to check the microphone system and adjust seating, moving to a stoolI’m much more comfortable upright. I’m used to standing when I speak. This is better. Not quite standing, but adequate.

You are not the clothing that you wear. You are not your names. You are not the anger that may arise in you at times. You are not the fear that may arise. You are not even the joy or patience that may arise, although these are expressions of your ultimate truth, and yes, the anger is also an expression. It is a contracted expression. The joy is a spacious expression. You are love and light. You are the energy of our Father/Mother/Creator bursting forth with that beautiful energy here on this heavy density earth plane.

The question for me, then, is not so much how do we handle the anger and negativity in the world, but how do we remember the radiance? Because when you fully remember that radiance, you cannot lose it. This is what I came to teach 2,000 years ago, that you are all expressions of this divinity, and the Light you are cannot die. The essence and love that you are cannot die. It can be hidden. It can diminish. If you take it into a dark closet it will lose a lot of its power temporarily, but it cannot die.

So when I hear the question of how to live in a world filled with fear and anger, how to live with love, for me that first point, the central point, is to remember what you are. But you forget so easily. Why do you forget? Is it that hard to remember?

I think, and Aaron has said this to you before, I think you are afraid of the power that you feel when you remember what you are. And so, you diminish your power by forgetting. You close yourself off into this much smaller self. You are love. You are enormous power, radiance, love and light. You are no different than me. You keep putting me on a pedestal. Don’t put me on a pedestal. Let me say it differently. Don’t put me alone on a pedestal; bring yourself up there with me. It’s lonely up here; share the pedestal with me. Share the mountaintop. You are love. You are light.

When I came into that incarnation as Jeshua, 2,000 years ago, I did not go through as deep a forgetting process as most of you do because I was more awake at birth. Yet at times I did forget who I was and why I had come.

As Aaron just reminded you, you need to know your intention to live with love toward the self and all beings, to do no harm. To touch the essence of yourself, the divine essence; draw it in and bring it out into the world. Let all beings feel, really experience that essence through you.

That human that I was, he could not always do it successfully because on this heavy density Earth, it’s like you are walking through heavy fog. It’s very hard to remember where you’re going. Back into Aaron’s talk, with the heavy cloud, you miss the sign that says, “Ocean. Mountains.” You just keep driving straight ahead, and then you wonder, when will we get there? Were you going somewhere?

You’re remembering the intention steers you to it. Again, I believe, Aaron, is this from Dhammapada, the bee metaphor? He says, yes. A bee heads to the nectar to make honey. He’s drawn to the pollen by the sweet scent of the flowers. In this way, be drawn toward the innate goodness in yourselves. Begin to trust this radiance in yourself. It isn’t hard. Nobody is going to slap you or put you down if you are not 100% successful. But when you hold the intention to live your radiance, you can do it. And if you don’t hold the intention, then you fall into anger and darkness.

Was I ever angry as Jeshua? Of course. People sometimes ask me, what did I do about my anger? I think the practice that worked best for me, and this was what my beloved mother taught me when I was a very young child. She would have me sit down on her lap and hold me in her arms, and I would be furious. She would ask me to think of something that I loved, of something beautiful that had happened that day, of a flower that we had just seen together, of something joyful, and simply to say, thank you. My mother was the expert on “thank you”. This was the biggest thing she taught me. Thank you. And then when there was a catalyst for anger, and it tore me apart a bit, I would remember to say thank you not only to what was beautiful in my life, but thank you for this anger, because anger is energy and power. Without anger you cut yourself in half as a human. You diminish your capacity to love if you cannot allow yourself to feel your capacity for that which feels uncomfortable or negative to you. The question is not about feeling the anger but what you do with anger.

So now you are hearing the same thing from me and from Aaron: what are you going to do with your anger?

Many of you are quite upset with the current state of the world, so many things which are arousing anger. Twitters from your president, is that how it’s phrased? Tweets, from your president. So your president tweets and then all the birds twitter? Is that how it works? I mean no disrespect. At any rate, tweets from your president. Children gassed in Syria. People then bombed in Syria. People who want to leave Syria to go to a place that is safe, to raise their children in safety, and they’re not permitted. The countries they would go to won’t let them in. There is a lot to bring up anger and feelings of injustice and powerlessness in your world.

What do we do with those feelings of injustice? What do we do with those acts of injustice? We want to change the acts of injustice. But we cannot change the acts of injustice until we open our hearts, until each of you is able to know how injustice feels in you, the coiling of energy, contraction, anger. And then my mother’s Thank you. Thank you for feelings of anger. Thank you for feelings of powerlessness. Yes. Thank you for this precious human life. Thank you for the feelings, the emotions that come with being human.

We on the higher plane cannot change this Earth; we can only talk to you and guide you. It’s up to you, through the changes you make in yourselves, to change the world.

Now we come to the second part of my talk, and many of you have heard this from me before. Aaron said it very clearly a week or two ago: you are all volunteers. Why did you come? Did you expect this was going to be some kind of completely pain-free playground and resort? That there was never going to be any discomfort? You knew better than that. You volunteered because there was a deep intention to help bring this Earth up to the high vibration that it can be. This is not just for the Earth and the humans and other sentient beings on the Earth, but quite literally as a power that can shift the whole universe.

I can remember, long ago, I loved to sing as Jeshua. As a boy I had a very clear, high voice, and I loved to sing. Others around me, some of them could carry a tune very well, and others could not quite carry a tune. I noticed that as a singer I had a choice. I could be pulled off-tune by the others, or I could stay true to my own notes, to my own tune and sense of harmony, and just hold the space for others to join in. I played with that often, as a young child, because as a 3, 4, 5 year old I didn’t always have the confidence to be the one singing loud, the confidence in my voice. But gradually I developed more confidence to simply stick to my own true tone; to hear myself know and know if I went off-tune. If I did, to become quiet and listen. But if I felt clear, that I was on tune, to sing loud and invite others to join me in holding those clear notes. I found that the more I did that, the more the whole group sang in tune.

This is no different, of course, then holding a space of love in a world that’s chaotic, frightened, and angry. You don’t have to hear it. It’s an energy, and it’s the energy for which you came into being, the high energy of love.

 I will pause. It seems we are having some technical problems…

As Aaron mentioned at the beginning, we have some new equipment, and each piece of new equipment requires a learning curve. My deepest thanks, along with Aaron’s, to B and T for the effort you’re putting forth to make this work right…

You are light. Stand up, wherever you are. Stand up… Be the light that you are. Feel the loving energy pouring through you and send it out. Don’t diminish yourself. Feel the power that you are, and don’t be afraid of it. But if there’s some fear, just say thank you. We are love. We are light. You are the light of the world, you. You are all the light of the world. Don’t hide it. Don’t diminish it. Trust that the ability to be that light would not have been given to you if you were not ready to carry it.

Thank you. You may all sit. We are going to open the floor to questions now. I would prefer at first that the questions relate to what we’re discussing here tonight. Of course, any reasonable question… Aaron says, don’t categorize it as reasonable; any reasonable or unreasonable question is welcome. But we’d prefer at first questions that relate to our talk. (Somebody is going to start a new recording. It will not be me (and then Aaron coaches him through it; very sweet!)

April 12, 2017 Wednesday Evening with Aaron and Jeshua Q & A

Jeshua: My technology is remembered from 2,000 years ago. We had some very advanced technology then that did not need machines and equipment. I hope all of you will advance into that level of technology that also does not need this kind of equipment. You are on the way to becoming telepathic and clairaudient but you haven’t gotten there yet, perhaps because you’re so reliant on these machines. You think you need something to do it for you.

Questions. You may designate to me or to Aaron the specific question, or to either of us, and whichever feels inclined to answer will respond.

Q: I’d like to request healing from Jeshua.

Jeshua: Q, you know I can be in many places at once, so let me work with that with you now while I or Aaron are also talking to the group. I am with you. My love is with you, and I will help you as much as I am able.

Q: The story about the manager at the bank, that seems to be what Aaron has been trying to teach us all along. Is there anything now that is the best practice for us? I feel very close to being able to live that.

Aaron: I am Aaron. The story about the bank. Yes, it’s what I’ve been trying to teach you for decades. Being human, you mostly stumble through it rather than walking clearly, so let’s ask, what helps?

From my perspective, watching contraction. The body contracts when it’s pushed; when there’s a loud noise and something startles you; when you see something that’s unpleasant or hear something that’s unpleasant. The very simplest practice is just to note contraction. That which is aware of contraction is not contracted. When you become aware of contraction, then you can ask yourself, in what ways am I reinforcing this contraction rather than noting it, opening my heart to it, and not becoming self-identified with it?

As soon as you become self-identified with it, create stories around it, try to fix it, even try to be openhearted with it, then it becomes a major force. Right there in that moment, where is that which is uncontracted?

So many of you have done this with me before, and yet I have found it’s always a useful exercise for people, because people tell me they keep learning no matter how many times I do this, so we’ll try (SHOUT!)… Did you contract? Where is the contraction now? Breathing in, I am aware of the contraction. Breathing out, I hold space for the contraction. Right here (pointing to the body). This is Level II of this practice, not just awareness of contraction, but right here with the body that is still reverberating a bit from that loud, startling yell, can I feel spaciousness? I’m requesting you to try to experience both at the same time, the body still trembling a bit and the spaciousness. Can you see how the trembling is an overlay over the spaciousness, and if you go under that overlay, the spaciousness is still there? Because the spaciousness connects to the essence of your being and you cannot lose it. The contraction is just the clothing on the top.

Can you feel the spaciousness that’s there, even if the body is still trembling from contraction? Then the next step: if mind keeps going back to the contraction with a subtle intention to fix it or get rid of it, let it be. It will never go away if you keep pushing it. Let the contraction be; let the mind with its preferences be and don’t get caught in believing the thoughts. Let it be.

Imagine the crying baby. It wakes up. It was startled— thunder, maybe, a loud sound. You pick it up from its crib. Are you going to shake it and say, “Stop crying! Stop crying!” Of course, that doesn’t help. So, you try to walk with the baby and say, “Shhh…shhh… shhh…”, patting it on the back, but inside there’s this little voice saying, “Why won’t it stop crying?” And you’re communicating that to the baby. The one who speaks to the baby cannot be there saying, “Why won’t you stop crying?”, but, “Oh, you were startled. Oh, crying is a natural reaction to be startled and afraid. It’s okay, and you can cry for as long as you need to cry. When that startle and fear resolve, the crying will stop. And for now, you are safe and you are loved.” Can you feel the difference?

So this is what you keep doing to yourself. The reaction comes up. You see right there with the reaction that which is still, but you’re still pushing aside the reaction instead of just opening your heart and knowing, “Yes, there was reaction. I open my heart to it. I give it time and space to resolve.” Gradually you get better at this.

We were with a friend this weekend who, upon hearing that something in the schedule was not going to his liking, was a bit afraid he would be late for something. Fear came up, anger came up, and then he turned to the person next to him and lashed out at something that that person had said. While what the person had said was not entirely skillful, it wasn’t so terrible. But he lashed out in a very strong way to his friend. Recognizing the contractions, he had the strong inner wisdom to pick himself up and walk out of the room, go to another place for a bit, and give himself time to be with the fear, “What if it doesn’t work?! What if it doesn’t happen the way it has to happen?!” Finally he came back, and his whole energy field, instead of looking like fireworks now just looked like gentle waves on the ocean. It was a remarkable change, because he caught his reactivity and could take himself out of the room.

Sometimes you can take yourself out of the room; sometimes you can’t. If you can’t take yourself out of the room, can you at least be quiet?

Let’s go on to another question. I was going to offer Jeshua the microphone, but he says let us go on, nothing to add.

Q: Many people are really angry and outraged (inaudible) sort of constantly. I am not feeling that way most of the time. It seems to me difficult to talk to people when they’re so angry and upset. It’s like you’re stupid or don’t care, if you’re not. I know it’s not my job to convince them, but I guess I want to be helpful.

Aaron: I’m going to speak to this briefly and then give it to Jeshua. You are a very long-term practitioner of the dharma, and through these practices you’ve developed both calmness and wisdom. You understand the deep truth, that everything that arises is impermanent, and that running around hysterical about it does not help. You understand that it’s impermanent.

Looking deeply at you, not just tonight with your question but in the many times we’ve spoken together, I do not see any dissociation with what’s happening in the world. But rather, ability to step back into the long-term picture, and to realize that agitation just adds to the agitation.

I think the big step for you, now, is the deepening of compassion that recognizes that these people of whom you speak are deeply caught up in the stories. It may be possible to point out to them, “Yes, there is a lot going on in the world that is tragic, that is painful, that is of concern, but giving it more fear and angry energy only adds fear. Do you understand what I mean?” I’m not asking you; I know you understand, but to ask them, “Do you understand what I mean?” And they say, “No, that sounds weird.” Then you can say, “Would you like me to talk more about it? It’s okay if you’re feeling frightened and upset and agitated and I’m not. Can we just agree that both are okay?”

Those who are ready to hear more will ask for more. Those who are not ready will say, “No, I don’t want to hear more. You’re crazy because you’re not upset.” Okay. If they want to think you’re crazy, let them think you’re crazy. Don’t take it personally. It’s where they are now.

At this point, let me pass this on to Jeshua.

Jeshua: I am Jeshua. Your world has come a long way in 2,000 years. The atrocities which alarm you in the world today alarm you because they are not the commonplace, because most people in the world are trying to live with more gentleness and respect for each other. Two thousand years ago there was so strongly a “Me for me; an eye for an eye, and tooth for a tooth” mentality. The “Me for me” might extend to your family, or even your community, but there was always a distinct “other”, someone toward whom aggression was poured. This was the norm.

Humans have worked hard for 2,000 years to move past that belief in separation. I agree with everything Aaron has said. I would add something to it. For you who raised the question, for yourself and for the person who is upset and angry, and is asking you, “Why aren’t you upset?”, what is the most heart-centered response to take you past separation and into connection? Maybe you must just listen to that person for an hour, or 5 or 6 hours. Listen to them until they wind down; listen to all the fear and anger pouring out. And then, gently point out to them, “Everybody in this world wants happiness and peace. We cannot find happiness and peace at the cost of another’s lack of happiness and peace. I find for myself” — I’m suggesting what you can say, adding to Aaron’s suggestions— “I find for myself that even if I feel angry, when I rant at others it doesn’t help create the happiness and peace I am seeking. But if I can keep my heart open to the needs of others, to their fears, then I can help them bridge this self/other gap and we come together, to really hear each other.”

For me the question is, what most promotes hearing? In those days when I walked the earth as Jeshua, there were so many people who applauded my coming, my presence, but they wanted to create an “other” around me, to make me something special or different, rather than including themselves in that circle of enlightened being, of awakened presence. There was far more in those days to fear and to be dismayed about than there is today. There was enormous cruelty everywhere. So often I witnessed people who were experiencing that cruelty, wanting to fight back without understanding what “fight back” could mean. How do we fight back? How do we say no to abuse in the world? You touch in to the awakened heart of your being and speak and act from that heart, and not from the ego self.

I am laughing. I think Aaron and I are becoming interchangeable parts here! I’m not sure we’re any longer speaking with two distinct voices. But I am Jeshua and he is Aaron. We’re both speaking to you from the grace of enlightened awareness, and inviting you to step into that space with us, to see that it is possible, even while you are still human, to live and respond from that place of enlightened awareness; to remember the high vibrational beings that you are and live from that high vibration, because this is what you came into the incarnation for.

Coming back to your question, Q, when there are enough of you able to hold loving space for those who are angry, frightened, confused, stomping their feet and screaming for change without any insight into how to affect that change, when there are enough of you able to listen and not react, but respond by holding space, holding energy, change will occur. Can you feel my energy here? (pause; Jeshua stands up) Can you feel my energy? I’m simply raising my energy, an energy of love. When people are screaming, “Fix this! Do that!” and you breathe deeply and hold space for their fear, it helps the fear to dissolve.

 If you get caught up in their fear, it doesn’t help. You came to help, so many of you who are truly higher density beings moving past 3rd density, grounding so deeply in love, and came with a commitment for love. And as you learn how to do that, you learn how to respond in a loving way.

Ahimsa. Aaron is reminding me of the word ahimsa, dynamic compassion. It is not a compassion that just says, “Oh, everything is sweet and lovely.” It knows when something is dangerous and harmful. It doesn’t strike out at it with hatred or anger but understands that the fear arose out of conditions and holds that loving energy around fear and its voices until the volatile energy begins to dissolve. It trusts itself to have the capacity to absorb and release that volatile energy. This is the edge of what so many of you are learning by being here on the earth plane in a situation where there are such heavy emotions. That the power of compassion, the acknowledgement of your awakeness and high energy and love, of your essence, can literally transmute the volatile energy into a whole different force, into love.

But it takes enormous courage, so for many of you it’s easier just to say, “Ah, I don’t know what to do! I don’t know what to do!” You do know what to do. You do know what to do, all of you. You do know what to do.

Let us move on to another question.

Q: My question relates to the other end, so to speak, of what you’ve been talking about, volatility and anger. I’m asking about the idea of complacency. A teacher has said that complacency is the greatest evil.

Jeshua: Do you understand what Aaron and I have been saying as advocating complacency? Because that is not what either of us intended.

Q: No. I did not.

Jeshua: Complacency. If you see somebody with a gun about to shoot other people, and you act to shoot them before they can shoot the other people, you are responsible for killing that person. If you do not act but simply walk away and let them shoot, you are responsible. You are responsible for all their deaths. You must always be responsible.

You must understand how karma works for this, and I’m not going to spend our remaining half hour on a lesson in karma. But every action is part of karma. So is every lack of action. Complacency is what allowed Hitler to kill so many millions of people.

I’ve been watching your Earth recently with interest because there are so many volatile forces. I see the people that get caught up in anger to fight against the volatile forces, but it’s anger, and almost hatred, that wants to fight. And in answer to (previous Q), I see those who want to just look away. But that, daughter, is not what you are doing. The question is, how do we act with dynamic compassion from a deeply loving heart and discover the ways to say no?

That bank manager, she was not complacent, she was active. She participated, but she listened. Those who are most afraid are those who cannot listen, because they are so busy defending their own viewpoint. You can’t hear another when you’re talking.

(Aaron does not wish to add to this.) Is that sufficient answer to your question? (Yes.)

Q: You were saying that we know what we need to do. And I can relate to that. I think many people in the room can relate to that. But subtle energy is becoming more frequent, and it’s becoming stronger. How to deal with subtle energy, because it’s insidious.

 Q: What do you mean by subtle energy?

Jeshua: I’m going to give you Aaron for this one.

Aaron: I am Aaron. I’m curious; can you feel the difference in speech and energy between me and Jeshua, as we come back and forth? It’s very interesting working side by side like this through the same body. Jeshua and I have led numerous workshops together, with Jeshua channeled through our friend Judy Coates; then there are two bodies, and we can talk back and forth. This is a little different. But it feels to me we’re learning out to come in and out of the body more smoothly. What you may be experiencing is the differences in our subtle energy fields.

 You’ve taken your 6-month-old baby to the lake on a warm summer day, and you have a nice little inflatable boat, almost like a cradle, to lay the baby in. You plan to put a little bit of water in it and let it float. Just as you get to the lake, the wind blows up and storm clouds come in. Suddenly there are whitecaps on the lake. Wind is blowing, rain is pelleting down. You’re going to bring the baby inside, aren’t you? Then the storm passes. You come back outside. But the wind is still blowing. You start to put the baby down, but the waves are coming in. Are you going to put the baby down? No.

Gradually the waves die away. The afternoon passes and it gets quiet, and then there are just little waves. At what point do you put the baby in its boat down in the water? When it’s safe. When it feels like the storm has passed enough that it won’t be turned over, and that baby will be comfortable. But do you wait until the lake is like a mirror? You don’t have to, do you? Fear might say, “Oh yes, it must be absolutely still. He could tip.” That’s fear. The baby will probably enjoy the little ripples. Let it go.

On this human plane, there are always going to be ripples. The emotional body, the physical body, the mental body; there are ripples all over. You learn to trust your intuition as to when it’s calm enough to venture out, to place the baby on the water. But if you try to stop the ripples, you can’t stop them. You say, “It has to be perfectly smooth.” It’s perfectly smooth, and you carry the baby and the boat out into the water. And suddenly, by the force of your walking out there, there are ripples. Are you going to go back to shore? You hold the balance of stillness and motion, of energy and absence of energy. Love holds the balance.

Your life is a matter of learning how to relate to the subtle energies of the earth plane and eventually how to co-create with those subtle energies. Subtle energy is subtle energy. Your fear is a form of subtle energy. When you respond to the subtle energies that you see as “out there” with fear, it creates more disturbance. When you hold space, it helps to calm the subtle energies.

You just experienced this with Jeshua, with his energy. You could feel both the power and the stillness. Something on which I have been working with Barbara, before and during her time in Brazil and the month since, relates to all of this. When she feels pain in the body, contraction, from anywhere or any cause, the body’s usual response to such subtle discomfort is to contract, which worsens the pain, which heightens the contraction. She’s been working with a lot of mindfulness, to note whichever comes first, whichever she notes first: the sensation, which is a little uncomfortable, or the contraction around the sensation. And immediately, we’re coming back to Jeshua’s “Thank you”, immediately to say thank you. Thank you for the reminder to come back into my heart. And she breathes deeply, especially into whatever part of the body is feeling that contraction and discomfort. Feeling the pelvis and lower back open. Feeling the shoulders and neck open. Feeling the chest open. Feeling the face open. Not forcing it, just inviting deep breathing and space. Predominantly space. The breathing reminds her to observe the space that is already there. Not to create space but observe the space that’s already there.

Right there with contraction is spaciousness. And as soon as she observes the spaciousness that’s already there, the contraction loses its grip on her. She opens more into the spaciousness. She begins to know: I am spaciousness, I am that. What Jeshua was talking about earlier, knowing the infinite radiance, purity, beauty, wholeness of the self. I am that. And yes, there may also be a twinge somewhere. So we take care of it. We put ice on it; we do whatever is appropriate for it to help it heal. If it’s an emotional twinge, we hold space for it in the heart. It will go.

The subtle, or not so subtle energies of fear, anger, separation, contraction, may seem to dissolve or may stay. What lies beneath that layer of contraction? If you wait for absolute stillness, it will never come; then you may slide into complacency grounded in separation.

 Does that sufficiently answer your question? If not, please speak further to it.

Q: It answers the question, but the practice is so difficult. You want to put the baby down, but the ripples that you make bring up fear.

Aaron: (smiling) Did you expect it was going to be easy? Find compassion for the human that you are. You are volunteers, and you came in with your eyes open, knowing what you were getting into, even though you may tell me otherwise. You knew it was going to be hard.

Give yourself some R&R sometimes. Get away from the news. Get away from the family or work or whatever else pushes at you. Just go and lounge on the beach, or paddle a kayak around the lake, or take a walk in the woods. Lie down under a tree. Give yourself some space and ease. Meditate.

One of the greatest blessings of meditation is that eventually you do come into a place of high energy and stillness, where the chakras are open, and the mind is not constantly busy. If thoughts come, they just come and go; sensations come and go. There’s not a lot of chasing around about anything, there’s just ahhh…. Then you start to remember who you were before you became this human trying to juggle too many balls. Meditate.

Next question…

Q: What are the skillful ways to work with psychedelics? How can they help us live a joyful, loving, peaceful life?

Aaron: I’m going to give you to Jeshua for this one.

Jeshua: I am Jeshua. In all my many lifetimes, and trying many different kinds of substances to see what different kinds of experience they would lead me to, trying non-substances such as fasting or whatever, trying prolonged periods of meditation, I have found that the most powerful force for awakening is simply presence.

Why would you need psychedelics when you can watch a flower open? Literally hold it in front of you and watch it open? There is nothing so beautiful as that. It’s the whole cycle of earth experience in one small blossom.

When you think you are missing something, and that there’s something else that you need, some of you then may turn to psychedelics. Certainly they’ll give you some kind of unique experience. But from my perspective, it is not a necessary or even a useful experience. I’m not saying it’s bad; it’s fine to try it, if you want to, until you finally learn that’s not where the answer is.

For me, a danger of some kinds of drugs is that they do lead you into a loving, openhearted experience, but the human coming out of that drugged state then becomes agitated because it cannot hold onto the experience. But if you will let yourself rest in your natural state of loving presence, of the awakened heart, that’s all you need. I’m sorry if this is not the answer you were hoping for, but this is what I would speak from the heart.

Babara, while reviewing the transcript. There was a question that came in when Jeshua spoke and was written down but not spoken in to the room. This was the thought that negative energy may have easier access when using drugs. Aaron agrees that this is so; thus there is some real risk with the drugs.

Other questions? And when I answer or Aaron answers a question, please feel free to ask a further question based on that, too. I would rather invite us more into a dialogue than just Aaron and I answering questions.

Q: Going back to what was spoken about earlier, you said everyone wants peace and happiness. I seem to perceive that there are people who do not want peace and happiness. They want power and control, and they are greedy. They have no use for peace or happiness.

Jeshua: There is the hitch, Q, because for them their peace and happiness comes from their feeling in control and having power. They have not yet learned that everybody wants peace and happiness, so it’s very one-sided. What I want; I want it the way I want it.

I once knew a man who had several slaves. If they did not do exactly what he wanted and the way he wanted it done, he would beat them. He gave them enough food to survive, but no more than that. And a blanket that they would not freeze to death, but no more than that. Wherever this man went he tried to command people, to make himself look big so people would be afraid of him.

This man, I had heard tell of him but did not know him. But then I had the opportunity to meet him. I met him at an opportune time. He had fallen off a, I would not call it a cliff, but high enough up that he had broken his leg. He was in pain. As I said I had heard rumors about him. When I came upon him, he had both his— I call them slaves, not truly slaves but they had no freedom of their own. They were servants, but there was no place they could go; they could not escape him. They were fanning him with big leaves, and he was crying out in pain and rage, “Make the pain go away!”

Somebody brought me to him. Actually, he ordered me to come to him, but I did not come because he ordered me. I came because I saw a teaching moment for this man. So, I just came and sat beside him. He said he was told I could do some miracles. Fix his leg! I looked at him and acknowledged how serious his pain was. He said, “Yes; make it go away?” I said, “You really want to be free of pain, don’t you? I understand that.” I brought one of his slaves up. The man was exhausted; he had been fanning this broken-legged man all day in the hot sun. I said, “Do you think this man is feeling pain?” “No.” I said, “Well, it’s very hot, and he’s been fanning you all day. Do you think his arms and back may be feeling pain?”

Suddenly you could see the insight dawning. I didn’t hammer it at him; I just talked to him. At first, he was reluctant to acknowledge that this was possible. I showed him a burro that he used as a beast of burden that had bleeding sores on its back because he overloaded it. He wanted to get everything he could out of this beast. And its ribs were showing. “Do you think this burro is feeling pain?” “No…. maybe.”

We talked for over an hour, and he began to see that everyone experienced pain and everybody wanted freedom from pain. Then I said, “If your leg heals”— I did not say, “If I heal your leg”; I said, “If your leg heals, what will you do?” He said, “Go on living my life.” I said, “In the same way?” It was hard for him, but gradually he began to acknowledge, “Maybe I’d have to make some changes.” And he kept saying to me, “Now will you heal my leg? Now will you heal my leg?” I said, “I cannot heal your leg, because you are holding the break in your leg. But I will sit here with you and talk to you, visit with you. Help give you food. Just be present with you until the leg heals.”

 It should have healed in 6 weeks or so, normal time for a leg to heal. It took him 3 months; he was so filled with anger and agitation! But the three months gave him time. I wasn’t with him all day; sometimes I would be gone for a week and come back. But I saw the subtle changes in the way he treated these two slaves, who were becoming servants. First he would eat, then he would offer them some of his leftovers. Then, two weeks later he would start to eat, and look at them, and say, “Here, you take some.” Angry, but, “You take some.” And then, a month later, “Come, let us eat together.” So slowly his heart healed as his leg healed. Now I’m not saying I influenced the leg to heal slowly; I wouldn’t do that! But the timing was perfect, because by the time the leg was healed, the heart was healed. He began to recognize: everyone wants peace. Everyone wants to be happy.

How do we bring this lesson to those in the world who are so filled with anger and fear, and so grasping at power and control? We’re back to the beginning of our talk tonight. When you learn to quiet the fear, anger, even rage and hatred and bigotry in yourself, to hold space for yourself and truly feel compassion for the places of pain in yourself, then you will know what to do, and how to speak to others. This is not complacency; what comes next will be dynamic, active. You may feel yourself moved to organize in some way. There is a beautiful old book that was printed by the American Friends Service Committee that Aaron is reminding me of, that is called Speak Truth to Power. I believe you can find and download it online, and you might find it an interesting read. https://www.afsc.org/sites/afsc.civicactions.net/files/documents/Speak_Truth_to_Power.pdf How do we speak truth to power from a loving heart?

I see it’s 9 o’clock, so we will end here.

My deepest love to all of you. May you all be filled with joy and peace. May you find the love that is within your hearts, and your power to communicate that love to all beings everywhere. And in this way, the world truly will be free of suffering and become the higher vibrational planet that it is meant to be. You can do it. It is why you came.

I’ll give you Aaron. My love, and thank you for being with me tonight.

Aaron: Thank you, Jeshua, and I am Aaron. Thank you all for being with us tonight. I love you all. Take these teachings into your heart. Make them alive in you. As Jeshua just said, this is what you came for. Thank you all. I will release the body to Barbara.

(session ends)

October 23, 2017 Monday, Oakwood Retreat, Aaron’s Intro

October 23, 2017 Monday, Oakwood Retreat, Aaron’s Intro

Aaron: Vipassana is a beautiful practice. It’s a way of coming home, and finding out who you are beyond the mundane bodies –  the physical, the emotional and mental bodies. Your thoughts change from day to day, from moment to moment. Your body changes. Your emotions change. Your energy changes. You cannot pin an identity on any of these aggregates. Who are you when you’re not self-identified as the body, the mind, the emotions, feelings of being good or not good, and so forth, who are you? When all of these things pass away, what remains?

The word passana in Pali language means seeing, to see. Vipassana means a deeper, clearer seeing. It takes us past the surface, to really see things as they are. Because you are, all of you, radiant, beautiful beings, I hope it will help you to see yourselves as I see you, with that love and radiance. To know the deeper truth of yourself beyond the unworthy one, the bumbling one, the one who has to get everything right, the weak one, strong one. Who are you?

Vipassana is a path to freedom. I know that from my own experience and my own liberation through this practice. But we do not teach only the traditional vipassana practice. We mix it with what might be called pure awareness practice. With vipassana, we watch objects arise and pass away, arise and pass away. The thoughts, the itch, all the different objects that come. We watch with spaciousness and kindness. We are watching arising and passing away with mundane consciousness. When consciousness is gone, is everything gone? What remains? Let us call it awareness, openhearted presence. So we practice the linear practice of vipassana, and we also practice the immediate now of presence. At the retreat, we mingle the two.

Your path to freedom is a very precious thing for yourselves and for all beings. Your Earth right now is in a tumultuous time: a lot of pain, a lot of friction, fear, confusion. The only thing that will carry you through it is love. Put in the Buddha’s beautiful words, “Hatred never resolved hatred. Only love resolves hatred.” But we can’t say, “Okay, I’m going to love. No hatred here! No anger!” Ah! How do we love when your house has been washed away by a hurricane or burned down by wildfire? When dear friends have been shot by a sniper? When politicians are threatening nuclear war? How do we love? If you did not have the capacity, the innate capacity for this kind of love, I would not invite you to be here for a retreat. But I know— I don’t believe; I know you have this capacity. And because you are here, you have the intention to develop this capacity, to return love where there is fear and hatred. To return calm, centered, clear mind to the places of agitation and confusion. But be careful here: this is not a doing, this is just returning to pure being.

This is the heart of what we will do this week. I look forward to our time together. I love you all very much, and I am very grateful to you for being here. I could talk for 2 more hours or end here, so I will end here, because I want to hear from you at this point. My blessings and love.

October 23, 2017 Monday, Oakwood Retreat, Barbara’s Intro

October 23, 2017 Monday, Oakwood Retreat, Barbara’s Intro

Barbara: I offered a very short few lines of introduction at the start of our go-around. We finished in time, so there are a few things I’d like to share. I grew up in the 1940s, and talk of the Holocaust was dinner table conversation; about extended family who were caught there and nobody knew what had happened to them, about people known and unknown. I really didn’t understand what they were saying, just, that people were being killed. I asked, how can people kill each other like that? How can people be so cruel to each other? I was maybe 5 or 6 years old. I really didn’t want to live in a world where people would be that cruel to each other.

I was a reasonably happy little girl. I went to school, played with friends. But I spent a lot of time crossing the road to the woods and pond that were a short walk away. In those days, 6 year old girls were free to walk into the woods and nobody said, “Oh, you’ll be in danger.” I had to take my big collie with me. Other than that, I was free to go where I wanted, as long as I told people where I was going and when I’d be back.

It was a small pond across the road, maybe 2 or 3 acres in size; it had an island in the middle. I could swim; I was not forbidden to go near the pond. I built myself a little raft; I found pieces of wood and tied them together with cords. The water was only hip deep near shore. I had a stick and I polled my way to the island, maybe 20 feet from shore. I would go to the island, and, I didn’t call it meditation but I would just sit and be quiet. The being I called “the man in the clouds” would come and talk to me. It was Neem Karoli Baba, who has been my guru all my life; his picture is on the altar.

He taught me jhana. He didn’t give it a label. He didn’t call it meditation. He just taught me step by step to move through the jhanas. Remember, I was probably 6, 7, 8 years old. I moved through these very blissful jhana states, and then would go home and look at a world where people were killing each other. I thought, I can’t do this. More and more, all through elementary school, I would spend my afternoons drifting around in the jhanas, blissing out in the jhanas. It was a great escape.

Finally when I was about 11 and going into junior high, Baba said to me, “I’m not going to be readily available to you anymore. You need to get back to the human world. You need to connect as a human.” “Don’t go away!” But I had no say in it. Obviously if he was not going to be available, he was not going to be available.

He gave me that year, and I have this written in a childhood diary, my spiritual name, Shanti Das, Servant of Peace. I asked him; I had no idea what the words Shanti Das meant. He said, “Your first work is to understand your name, the translation of it, what it means, and then how to do it.”

I spent a lot of years trying to figure it out. Finally I found out it meant Servant of Peace, and I said, “Oh, well, I’m a pacifist!” I was a Quaker. I was a very militant Quaker! I have a photograph somewhere in my attic of myself picketing in a canoe on the Thames River in New London, CT outside the Electric Boat Company where they built nuclear submarines. They would send PT boats after us. You can maneuver a canoe much faster than you can maneuver a PT boat! We would play cat and mouse for a long time. They were not going to make a martyr of me and launch the submarine on top of us. They had to delay the launching of the submarine until they caught us. I was thrown in jail a few times. The dean of my school, Connecticut College in New London, where this was happening, was also a Quaker, and she would come and bail me out. Finally, she said to me, “Is this okay with your parents?” I said no, and she said, “Well, considering they’re paying your tuition, maybe you need to stop doing civil disobedience until they’re no longer supporting you.” And that made sense to me. So, I sort of stopped. But I was still a militant pacifist.

Fast forward. What does Servant of Peace mean? This has really been a lifelong question for me. What does it mean to be a servant of peace? What is peace? For many years I asked the question. Then I married Hal, we had children, I lost my hearing, all in fast succession. I really wasn’t spending much time trying to figure out what was a servant of peace. I was trying to figure out, how do I live this life with the enormity of suffering of losing my hearing? There was a lot of anger, a lot of fear.

I prayed for help. I was feeling very stuck, because— my life was good. I have a loving husband. Our 50th anniversary is next May. I have 3 wonderful sons, beautiful daughters-in-law, grandchildren, work that I love. But back then I was so angry. Why did this happen to me? Am I being punished? What is this life about? The questions you’ve been asking. Who am I? Why am I here? Why did this hurtful thing happen to me? I prayed for help.

I’m capsulizing this, but almost immediately after that prayer I came into my living room to meditate and there was a spirit there. That is the only way I can phrase it. There was this powerful energy. I could see him, feel his presence. I said, “Who are you? Why are you here?” He said, “You’re suffering. Let’s look at the causes of the suffering.”

I had been meditating all my life, and doing a practice very similar to vipassana, self-taught. I knew nothing about Buddhism. I knew nothing about vipassana specifically as a form of meditation. But I had moved from jhana practice to what looks like vipassana, just present in the moment, watching what arises, holding it with presence. But I had a subtle tilt to my practice, where when something unpleasant arose when I was sitting, some body pain or emotional pain, I would pull my attention back, move away from what was unpleasant, to my breath or the luminosity  that I often used as a primary object. Because of the jhana practice I knew how to shift myself into a very peaceful place. So I was using it as a way to escape the discomfort, unwilling to go into the discomfort.

Aaron began to teach me so lovingly. Basically, his first teaching to me was the Four Noble Truths. You’re suffering. The suffering exists, it’s real. Let’s look at the causes of the suffering. And the suffering is not from being deaf; the suffering is from the grasping at not being deaf, the hatred of the deafness. I said, well am I stuck here forever? No, freedom exists. I didn’t know this was the Four Noble Truths. Just, you’re suffering, yes. The cause of the suffering is the grasping, the fear. Freedom does exist. And then the beautiful Eightfold Path.

The Eightfold Path has three parts. Sila, moral awareness. Well, I really had that established through the earlier part of my life. Samadhi; I had that established. Wisdom, not much, not much at that point. So, the deepening of wisdom is what was needed.

His early teaching to me, whatever has the nature to arise has the nature to cease, and does not belong to you. It has arisen out of conditions. He helped me to understand how to be present with what arose with an open heart. It is unpleasant or pleasant. If it’s unpleasant and aversion arises, be present with the aversion. If it’s pleasant and grasping arises, be present with the grasping. What is grasping? What is aversion? I began to develop the wisdom to see that it simply is arisen out of conditions, and as long as those conditions have not been purified it will continue to arise; and that the only way to purify those conditions is with love.

At this point I still was not looking at the “what does it mean to be a servant of peace?” Just, how do I get out of the suffering trap? But gradually his teaching really took root.  I started to understand that the peace that I was seeking for myself had always been there, and that I couldn’t really lose it. But I had gotten it so covered up, just mucking around in all these theories: if I do this, if I do that, how do I fix it. I had to just let it all go; to really open my heart and just be here with this beautiful Earth, beautiful friendships, beautiful dharma, and with the enormity of pain of sentient beings; just opening the heart.

The jhana practice had taken me, many decades earlier, to a blissful place where I avoided mundane consciousness. But now I was able to move into the deeper vipassana practices, where the mind and body dissolved; body and ego dissolution. Aaron was teaching me more and more about what he calls awareness, as differentiated from mundane consciousness. Eye touches an object: seeing consciousness. Ear touches an object: hearing consciousness. Body touches a surface: touching consciousness. Thinking consciousness, when the mind touches a thought.All of these are based in the mundane realm

There’s a part of practice with which some of you are familiar with that’s called access concentration. It’s a place where the practice is developed to the point that awareness watches objects arise and dissolve without getting caught up in stories about them. There’s no self in it, just, the sky is blue then a cloud blows across, and then the cloud blows away. Not, why is that cloud hanging over me? No stories, just here it is and there it goes. So eye consciousness sees the cloud come and sees it go. Awareness rests in the spaciousness, seeing the cloud and the absence of cloud, the whole picture.

Gradually I started to find what true peace is, what true joy is. I am so grateful for my life. I am so grateful for Aaron and all the teachers that have supported my path. I’m so grateful for the opportunity to really be a servant of peace by bringing these teachings to people like yourselves, and helping you to realize it for yourself. I can’t give it to you; I can only be like that finger pointing to the moon. Where is the moon? Up there, but I can’t transport you to the moon; your practice transports you. I can’t transport you to liberation, or peace, or joy, but your practice does. It’s a practice of so much love and so much joy and gratitude and freedom, of peace. But it asks of us a willingness to be touched by suffering until it goes through us, without resistance, and the heart opens to hold it all.

I’m very glad to be with you here this week. We have 6 days, which is in some ways a very short time and in some ways a very long time. A lot can happen in 6 days. It’s intense because you’re in silence, and the silence is so beautiful. Please honor the silence, for yourselves and for others. This means more than not talking but finding the inner silence, right there with noise and agitaton, with contraction and pain.

Watch the impulses, all the impulses, not just the impulse to talk or whatever, but all the impulses. Watch the feelings. Watch the body sensations. Watch the emotions, and develop for yourself the wisdom: it’s all arising because the conditions are present for it to arise, and when the conditions cease, it will cease. It is not me or mine. This is wisdom. It’s a beautiful dharma.

So this has been a bit of my story, my spiritual path. One more thought; most of you know I was a sculptor for much of my life and taught sculpture at the University of Michigan. I was making 8, 10, 12 foot bronze sculptures that spiraled around and moved. I would go into my studio and sketch these, and build them out of copper tubing and then build them together. When I finished them, a name came to me: Lael, Ariel. Who’s Lael? Who’s Ariel? But then, after I met Aaron, these beautiful entities came and introduced themselves. “Thank you for doing my portrait— I’m Lael!” “I’m Ariel!” It feels like my life has come together in a perfect way. Now I can channel some of these entities whose bronze portraits I did, and allow them to speak for themselves and share their wisdom.

That’s all. My love.

Remembering Wholeness with Jeshua, 04.16.17, Easter Sunday

April 16, 2017 Easter Sunday, Remembering Wholeness with Jeshua

Jeshua: My blessings and love to you all. I am Jeshua. I know that’s Aaron’s greeting; I have learned it from him. Thank you for inviting me to be here with you today. (Walking among the group) I want to look into your beautiful faces, feel your presence, and invite you to feel my love and presence…
 There is no need to believe anything special about me. I am no different than you. I was born as human, as you were all born as human. Yes, I was more awakened, perhaps, than you were at your birth in this lifetime. I did not forget why I had come. But don’t put me on a pedestal. You are just as divine and radiant, and as much Sacred Spirit, as I am.

Give me a minute… this one has pain in the body. Just trying to bring in supportive energy. Your loving energy directed to her will be helpful, also… (pause) 

Breathe in, allow the energy in. Think of it as a cylinder of light, pouring into your head and into the chakras, opening all the chakras in the energy system… (his hand is over her head) (pause) 

They called me different names— Messiah, Holy One, even Cursed One. I was none of these. I was simply Jeshua ben Joseph, the son of Joseph and Mary, come to Earth at the request of our mutual Father/Mother/Creator, to bring love, to open people’s hearts; to teach people to know their innate light, their radiance; to know who they were. That’s all. People say, “Well, he came to fulfill a prophecy.” There are many prophecies. I came because our beloved Creator/Father/Mother said, “Please, will you go down and help?” I could have said no, just as each of you can say no. There is free will. But there was no reason for me to say no. It was my joy to say yes. 

But I understood from the start that it was going to be hard work, that I was coming into a very heavy density realm. It is as if you suddenly found yourself in a diving suit—the old-fashioned kind of diving with tanks, a big bubble around the head and a heavy suit. You’re half a mile under the sea. Very hard to move around because the density is so heavy. I understood it would be cumbersome. (walking around imitating the heaviness) Do you feel like that sometimes, when you’re walking around? 

You are here, as I was then, to help fulfill a prophecy of the Earth’s evolution as a higher density planet on which beings can live without the veil of forgetting; knowing who you are and why you have come, knowing non-separation, and with full free will too. Able to live with the love that is your birthright. 

It’s so hard for some of you to believe that. (pausing for a drink of water) Water. This Earth is a place of such blessings, amongst them, simple water. Air, light, fire. You were born into these elements, and they are a part of you. When you open to the elemental basis of yourself, it helps you to come back and know who you are. You are not a brain, you are Love (hand over his heart). We put it together, heart/mind, because the wonder of the human is that you have intelligence and the opportunity of free will choice. That means you can choose love or fear in any given moment. And in that choice, may awaken to the truth of who you are. 

In that lifetime I was named Jeshua. It was not my first human lifetime. It was the first one you know about, but not the first one. In your Buddhist teachings you have the stories of the Buddha’s early lifetimes, the Jataka Tales. Well of course I had early lifetimes also, both on the earth plane and on other planes. So when you ask, who is Jeshua and what happened on these days of Good Friday and Easter Sunday, the human who came as Jeshua ben Joseph simply went through a transformation, releasing some of the heaviness of human density, and allowing myself more fully to enact the high energy and light that I truly am. 

All of you, you’ve been here before. Who are you? Are you this human being, sitting in this chair? Who were you before you were born? Who will you be after you die? It’s constantly changing. What is the essence that holds it together? 

I have a little experiment here. Let’s have 8 of you, any 8, who would like to come up. The ends of some of these candles are broken, so have care with them… I have 4 more candles… Anyone else like to participate? I think these 12 are all the candles in the box… Now I’m going to take the first candle and light it. Spread out enough that those in the back can see. I’m going to light this candle and pass it to you… 

This is what we might call the Jeshua light; now it will become the N light. N is going to light D’s candle with it and then extinguish hers. I want you to watch the flame. D will light B’s and then extinguish hers. Watch the flame carefully. Now it’s burning from a red candle, and now it’s burning from a white candle, a pink candle, green candle, just as some of your inner flames sometimes burned in a black or white or brown or yellow or red body, male or female, short or tall. Watch the flame. 

Each lifetime, a new candle. One flame. Now you all may sit down, and will you please hold up the candle (the last one lit); hold it up. Is there anything different in that flame than the flame with which we started? Is it the same flame or a different flame? Same flame or different flame? (Group: same flame) Same flame; different bodies. Do you understand the point I’m making? 

The holy light that is the essence of you, the radiance and love that is the essence of you, this remains. Part of what I came to teach as Jeshua is that this light that you are cannot die. The body passes, just as the candles change. The light essence that you are can never die. In those days it was believed that when you died, that was it, you were gone. Some of the teachers of those days did not like what I taught because they did not believe that there was any essence that continued, any divine essence that could not perish. 

Q: Soul? 

Jeshua: The word “soul” gives the idea of something perhaps a bit more permanent than I have in mind, but what I am talking about here is this core of light that comes from the Father/Mother/Creator and expresses through you, in whatever form you are in that lifetime, and will never die. You are expression of that life, now expressing on this heavier-density planet. So the body may cease but the Light continues , and expresses from a new candle. 

Actually, for Jeshua, the body did not completely die, because of the training I had to keep a spark of life going. To all perceptions, I was “dead”, but because my focus and energy were not on the outer forms but on the essence, from that essence I was able to rekindle the candle. So as I lay there in that cave “dead”, the consciousness continued. Pure awareness, noting this body, this inert body in which it rested, drew light and rekindled itself. 

I had help. We had a triangulation of three caves and people toning in these caves, creating a triangle of energy that helped support my process drawn from my training. Enactment of this process was all our training. I could not have done it alone any more than we could sit here in this circle and have strong energy just with one person. You can feel my energy but…(static, recording stopped; he thinks his high energy as he raised his vibration a lot to demonstrate “feel my energy” did something to the recorder) 

Jeshua: The recording stopped: I think we lost about 5 minutes. I will continue. 

Barbara: Here, while reviewing, I have asked Jeshua to fill in a little of what we lost. He says this is very shortened and not exact. 

You can feel my energy but also all the energy of the circle, that magnifies mine. 

While within the crucifixion, there was pain, but also, I knew how to withdraw consciousness from the body. I did that in part, though not completely because I chose to have the human experience. 

When I was carried into that cave, to the human eye I was dead, but I retained that spark of life and could rekindle it. The process has been lost, but you are on the path to relearning it. As humans, once you see a possibility, you know and trust it is possible, and then your belief system of “impossible” no longer blocks the manifestation. So I also came to demonstrate this continuation of Light. 

There was no fear. I knew my essence could not die.

 Remember being a child jumping, perhaps from a dock, into the water and the waiting parent’s arms. It was frightening to leap, but you also trusted the parent, that he or she would catch you. In time that leap ceased to frighten. In life, you are often invited to leap, and to trust the Love that will catch you.

Jeshua continuing from the audio transcript:

When you pass from the body, it’s just like that leap, leaping into the Father/Mother’s arms, the loving parent waiting to catch you safely; to hold you until you are ready to climb back on the dock and begin a new incarnation. And then you leap off again. Both ways it is a leap, into what you call birth and into death.,. 

So yes, there was pain involved, but I also knew it was completely safe to die because I was not identified with the body; the light that I am could not be extinguished. The light is eternal. 

The more you can touch on that light in the incarnation, to know it and rest there stably, the more fully you can bring forth your energy to invite a higher vibration of love on this heavier density plane, and to change this plane. The more you hold back, the more you become part of the fearful masses that weigh everything down. But that’s okay too. If you must do that, then do that for as long as you need to until you are ready to step past it. There is no right or wrong here, only each human holding the intention to help themselves and the whole Earth remember the— I am asking Aaron; I started to say “intrinsic”— is that the correct word, Aaron? The essence of light that you are. My English vocabulary is not completely up to date; sometimes I refer to Aaron for help on the vocabulary. 

(walking among the group) So I love you all, and thank you for being here with me today. Know what you are and let go of the rest… Release limiting beliefs that do not serve you. Celebrate rebirth of all that is good and beautiful! Know that heart of love that is your essence. 

Remember that we are brothers. I will not say don’t put me on a pedestal, but put yourself right up there with me. Or take us both off and let us just walk on the earth together. Either way is fine. 

(to individual) Your beloved is so strongly with you, with us in this circle. (inaudible personal comments, long pause as he walks around, greeting each person) Let go of everything that is not light, and trust your radiance to shine forth… (continuing) Breathe… Fire needs a bit of air. (continuing) You also, breathe; like father, like son. Breathe… (continuing) 

Our schedule had me talking until 4pm, and then the Mother. Within that talk there was supposed to be time for questions. I will leave it to you whether you want to spend some time with questions and have a much shortened darshan with the Mother, just an exchange of energy with little talking, or whether you wish me to end here and have the Mother come in here for the normal darshan. Is there a preference? (a show of hands; about equalSince you are here for the Remembering Wholeness, I think these are enough words from me, and we’ll get together another time when we can talk longer. 

I’m going to release the body to the Mother. Actually I’m going to release the body to Barbara so she can stretch a bit and change the chairs here and then start the darshan. 

May you all experience the deep blessings of love that are your birthright in this human form. You were never promised that there would be no pain. You were promised that you have the capacity to transmute that pain into love. This is your human work, as it was my human work. 

My love, my blessings. I release the body…

See Aaron’s teachings on: The Practice of Clear Light in the archives.

Healing and the Ever Perfect Workshop | May 24, 2017 | Transcript

May 24, 2017 Wednesday Evening, Healing Workshop

This transcript has been reviewed by Barbara and Tavis
Technical  delay in starting so beginning with introductions

Barbara: introduces herself

Tavis: One of the things they asked me to talk about is how I join allopathic medicine and the energy work. Many people ask, how did you even get into energy work, being an allopathic physician? So I’ll talk a little about that now, and we’re supposed to talk more about it in a little bit. I’m an M.D., Internal Medicine, Board Certified with the Board of Internal Medicine, and also part of the clinical faculty for the University of Washington. So those are allopathic credentials. I’ve been in practice for almost 30 years, with Indian Health Service in the 1990s, and head of the hospital there for a while, and in private practice since 1999. I closed the private practice in 2015 in order to pursue more of a mixture of the spiritual energy work and a little bit of allopathic medicine. When we practice allopathic medicine under the standards of care through our governing bodies we can’t really use spiritual medicine or alternative medicines. They’re not standards of care, they’re not FDA approved, so I have to separate those. But there is a way for me to combine those, and I’ll talk a little bit about that later.

So that’s my introduction. The next introductions are Aaron and the spirit doctors…

Barbara: We’re getting a little bit of a late start here. We’re going to be working with a number of entities today. Well, I’m an entity, Tavis is an entity! But also Aaron, of course, and Jeshua; Three of what I consider spirit doctors, who go by the names Father John, Father Kindness, and Dr. O.; the Mother, who many of you are familiar with; and another very loving entity who presents herself more as female, Sister Love. They’ll be the prime presenters, but don’t be surprised at anyone who drops in!

I’m going to get out of the way and let Spirit speak…

Aaron: My love to you. I am Aaron. I know they said Jeshua would start, but I just want to come in, say hello and welcome you. As Barbara pointed out, many different entities will be coming in and out of Barbara’s body, so we need your help to keep the energy high. If you get up to walk out of the room for any reason, that’s fine. Don’t rush out and rush back, because that breaks the energy. Walk out gracefully, lovingly. Come back and feel the high energy in the room while you stand at the door, say thank you, and take your seat, so you’re not crashing into the energy.

Part of the reason that I came in first is that Jeshua would far prefer to sit on a stool. (They adjust the seating.) Jeshua, will this work? (Yes.)

Jeshua: My love to you all. They call me Jeshua. Thank you for being here with us today. Now we will start the program.

You are light. You are love. You ask the question, who heals? What heals? What is the nature of distortion? I want to begin the program by addressing these questions.

Let us begin with a simple prayer that I think all of you know. You know “The Lord’s Prayer,” as being my words. “When you pray, pray this way.” What did I mean by these words? Let’s take it a piece at a time, because I think this foundation is vital to your understanding of everything else we will discuss today.

“Our Father/Mother/Divine Creator, the Source of all that is, we praise Thy name.”

Now, the Divine Creator— co-Creator with you;  the source of light and love, does not need your praise. There’s no ego there. Why would it seek praise? The praise is for you. When you praise, you raise your vibration. You come up to a higher place of love and begin to know who you truly are. “We praise your name.” —whatever name you give, and each tradition gives its own name. There is one God/Goddess/Divinity, many names. I love you. I cherish you and all that you have created.

“Thy kingdom come; Thy will be done.”

In other words, may this light and love that you are be found everywhere. And may I of my own free will be a part of creating that light and love throughout all the universes, all the galaxies, everywhere. I am light, I am love; therefore I am created in Thine image, I am light and love, and I choose to be a part of the co-creation on this heavy density planet. “Thy kingdom come.” Thy will of Love everywhere and in everything. The Knowing of that love in everything. “Thy will be done.”

“Give us this day our daily bread.”

Is anybody here hungry? Do you need bread? What do you need? Do you need Light and love? What truly nourishes you? I think we can find some bread in the kitchen, if anyone needs it. But I doubt that’s what you truly need. If it is what you need, of course we’ll make sure it’s available to you. But the essence, light, high vibration, love; that is what we ask. “Give us this day our daily bread.”

“And forgive us our trespasses.”

That’s a harder one. If you know yourself to be light and always act in accordance with that light, then there are no so-called trespasses. But coming into this heavy density planet you forget who you are, and you cease to know yourself as light and as love. And then you act in antithesis to the core of your being, which is light and love. You act in service to self instead of service to all beings because you have slipped into the illusion of separation.

We ask forgiveness for that, that which shaped us, shaped us with free will and the possibility to hold to that true light or to slip into distortion. When you slip into distortion, you suffer. When you suffer and you are paying attention, it helps you learn not to slip into the distortion of separation but to hold the space of love.

We ask forgiveness, we ask compassion for ourselves and all beings who, because of the humanness and living on this heavy density planet, do slip into distortion, do transgress against the illusory other, which is really the self. Because when I harm another, I harm myself.

“and help us to forgive those who trespass against us.”

To see that they have also slipped into the illusion of separation, and out of that illusion have acted and spoken in ways that do harm. Each time we say, “I hold you in my heart,” seeing the pain that creates the distortion of separation, we forgive. And in forgiving others, we forgive ourselves.

“Lead us not into temptation.”

Lead us not into the paths that the separated ego would walk, but help us to know our innate connection with God/Goddess/All That Is.

“Deliver us from evil.”

What is evil? How can anything be evil if God has created everything? On the ultimate level, there is no evil. On the relative level, we slip into the ego self, into the stories. Deliver us from, let us say from slipping into the illusion of separation. That’s my best definition of evil: to become caught in the illusion of separation. “Deliver us from evil.”

“For Thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory.”

The one God/Goddess/Infinite Creator, the heart of love, it is that, the divine essence, that we adore and with which we come to know in non-duality.

That is my meaning behind that prayer. Now let us take this one step further.

Who are you and why are you here? You are love. You have always been love, even when you forget that you are love. You have the Bible story of the Garden of Eden, and some of you cry out, “Return me to Eden! Why was I evicted from the Garden? What sin did I commit, to be thusly removed?” No sin. You are always in the Garden. How could you be anywhere else?

This is part of the illusion to which you have agreed. When you first found yourself with awakening consciousness in that Garden, the first moment of “I Am”, of a self, there was the idea of separation from God. If I am, then God must be separate. This is akin to the birth of the child, who as the fetus, dwells in unity with the mother. But upon its birth it experiences itself eventually as separate from the mother. Not immediately; eventually. And it did not happen for you immediately, either.

This spark of God that you are, this spark of consciousness eventually looked around itself in this heavenly realm and said, “I am.” And then, “If I am, and I do not feel God’s presence, then I must be out of the Garden. How do I come back?” Saint Joh/n of the Cross speaks of this experience as the “Dark Night of the Soul.” The rest of the journey has all been your attempt to come home to God, to come home to your true self, to know yourself as you are.

But here’s something interesting. That which we think of as God or Divine Essence or Creator, is infinite. And if it’s infinite it includes everything, including you. It includes loving thoughts and angry thoughts. It includes joy and sorrow. It includes fear and love. You are here in incarnation to end the dualities. If something is pushed aside, is thought of as not divine, it seems to be outside of the heart of love. It is something seen as needing to be fixed, something broken. But what if everything is an expression of God/Goddess/All That Is, of love?

There are some what you might think of as beautiful expressions, and some what you might think of as contracted, negative expressions. Are they not all a part of the One?

A battery has a positive pole and a negative pole. Only one battery. It cannot be a battery unless it has a positive pole and a negative pole. That which we think of as positive lives with the intention of service to all beings, the intention of love. That which we think of as negative lives with intention of service to self, and putting the self above others. But the Self is also part of Creation. Is ego negative? Is ego evil? No, nothing is evil. Ego is a misunderstanding, caught in the delusion of separation. If everything is Divine then ego is also Divine. But now it expresses as an uncontrolled contraction, pushing itself, separating itself, instead of knowing itself as everything.

You have come into the incarnation to more fully know yourself as non-dual with All That Is; to look at the beautiful expressions that we might call positive polarity, and the, let’s call them the more unattractive expressions that we might call negative polarity, and to bring the negative back into the loving heart; not to empower the negative but to invite it back into the heart. This is why Aaron keeps telling you, when something negative arises, bring it into the heart. Fear, anger, greed, you don’t have to enact them, but don’t hate them and thereby empower them. As Aaron would tell you, they have arisen from conditions. Let them be, and return to the true self.

You have lived with the Garden of Eden myth for a long time, with the idea that you had to do something to finally fix yourself, to scour off the negative so that you could be the beautiful one that you are. You have believed that you can only reconnect to the source of love if you do a good job of scouring and finally get rid of all the negative. This applies to your emotions, to your thoughts, to your body, until people come to me and say, “Why am I sick? What did I do wrong? How do I get rid of the illness?” Rather, the question needs to be, how do you embrace everything— fear, anger, negative thoughts, body discomfort? What is the true nature of body distortion? I will speak more about this today, and others of these Brothers and Sisters of Light will speak. I wanted to simply get topics started.

What is the nature of illness? Of course, there are many grounds for illness— environmental, genetic, different causes for illness in the body. But let’s talk more about what perpetuates it and what releases it.

If you know yourself to belong in the Garden, you know you have the right to be there, the absolute right to be there. You have always been there. Come back. Why do you hold yourself apart?

You might say that I came to Earth, in the lifetime when you knew me as Jeshua, to invite you all back into the Garden. That’s where you live. You’ve always been in the Garden, but you forgot. So, wake up! Come back! Be there with me. It’s lonely there without you.

I’m going to give the body back to Barbara at this point, to let Barbara and Tavis take this wherever it will go next. Thank you.

Barbara: Thank you, Jeshua. This is Barbara. This is a little tricky part of it, and I asked Aaron and Jeshua, can I really do this? Can I really have Jeshua leave the body and me, Barbara speak soon after?  They said, “yes”. So give me one minute to ground myself here. His energy is so high it’s a little hard to come back to Barbara consciousness. But they decided Jeshua needed to talk first, and it was easier for me to talk second than later when there had been numerous other entities in the body.

I’m going to go back and sit in my chair; Jeshua can have the stool…

So we’re talking here now about the questions, what is healing, what needs to be healed, who heals. I’ve been asked to speak personally about the simultaneity of the ever-perfect and distortion. Tavis asked me to clarify: what do I mean by ever-perfect? What do I mean by distortion?

Imagine a flat ocean, no ripple anywhere on the surface. Then the wind blows, and ripples form. We could say the ripples are a distortion of the flatness. But there’s nothing negative about them; this is the nature of the ocean. More wind blows and waves form. Are the waves ever separate from the stillness of the ocean? The ocean is stillness and fluidity, stillness and movement. The waves are not separate from the ocean. Our minds and bodies move into areas of contraction, and they’re not separate from the core of radiance and stillness. They’re not bad, but the ripple is felt as a distortion.

BB here

One image gave me many years ago that I found helpful. I was down at the lake at night, sitting on my boat. It was a very clear night and the water was perfectly still. I had a brilliant flashlight. Aaron asked me to shine the flashlight down into the water. The water was very clear. In the daytime one can see the bottom. The light hit the water, and then it seemed to bend because the water has a different density than the air. So the light was straight, and then bent. He said, is the light truly bending? No, but there’s the illusion that it’s bending. This is just the play of different densities or vibrations.

If I feel loving, truly open-hearted and connected, and then something comes up that arouses anger, I personally think of anger as a distortion. I feel it as a contracting energy. Then Aaron asks, “is this other than love? Is there anything here that’s not love?” The anger is just a distortion of love. If I couldn’t love, then anger wouldn’t come. One of the conditions that gives rise to anger is that I’m capable of loving. Does that make sense to you? If I was not capable of loving, I would not care enough to move into anger. But because I want to protect, or because fear comes up based on that love, I may move into the distortion of anger. They’re not separate.

This is about the relationship of the relative and the ultimate.  I’m going to bring out these nested canisters. Some of you have seen this demonstration years ago. We have an ultimate reality (large canister) and a relative reality (small canister). Most of the time we spend our time in relative reality. We look out, peek around (pulls out a small teddy bear from the relative canister). Relative reality. Sometimes when we look out we say, “Ooo, there’s a big space out there.” Back into relative reality, “It’s too big out there.” We forget that relative reality is inside ultimate reality, and that when we’re in relative reality we’re also always in ultimate reality.

We have some profound meditation experiences that leave us in the ultimate. “Wow!” But we can’t stay there. Eventually we come back to the relative. Then we have a profound meditation experiences of the ultimate, in which we begin to see that we can come out of relative reality and really straddle them, one foot in each. We start to gain balance there, get a little bit comfortable with being in both. But we are still trying to move back and forth— relative, ultimate, relative, ultimate. When something scares us— boom! We jump back into the relative. The relative goes back into the ultimate, but we’re back into the relative, lid on, and fail to realize the simultaneous presence of the ultimate.

For me, the most powerful part of all my years of spiritual practice has been truly understanding the simultaneity of relative and ultimate. If I’m in a deep meditation in ultimate reality, I’m still in relative reality. When I lose myself in relative reality with a lid on, I’m still in ultimate reality. I can’t lose ultimate reality.

So what does this mean to my life? I want to give two short examples. Through all my childhood, teenage, and young adult years I had a very strong sense of unworthiness. I had done a lot of work with myself meditating and with therapy and so forth. I understood intellectually that I was not unworthy, but that was still the label I gave myself. If I was at a party, for example, and came in and walked up to somebody and then maybe somebody tapped their shoulder and they looked away from me— “Oh! I’m unworthy. They don’t care about me. They don’t love me. Something’s wrong with me.”

About 25 years ago I was at a month-long meditation retreat, and as I did walking meditation and saw people walking toward me, Aaron invited me, instead of looking away as was the instruction for the retreat, making no eye contact, to look up. Of course, as soon as I made eye contact with them, they looked away, because we’re told, “no eye contact”. They looked away and shame came up. And then Aaron asking the question, “is there anybody unworthy here? Can you see that this whole story just arose from conditions and has no ultimate truth?”

Gradually— good that it was a month, I needed the whole month—but gradually my heart began to open to this human that had the conditioned experience to believe myself to be unworthy and to move into shame. Finally, I said to Aaron, if I’m not unworthy I must be worthy. He said that’s just another story. No worthiness, no unworthiness. Can there be compassion for the human that still has not purified the conditions that give rise to unworthiness? The story “I’m unworthy” still occasionally arose, without believing in the story, without getting hooked into the story. Just, here is old conditioning. The relative level, “I’m unworthy!”, and the ultimate level, “No one is every unworthy, including me.” Filled with love, feeling connection, feeing joy. Moving back and forth between the two.

By the end of the month, two things had happened. I no longer believed myself to be unworthy. I did not get hooked into that story anymore. And I was filled with compassion for the human who had. I was no longer trying to fix myself because I didn’t find anything broken in myself anymore. Understanding the simultaneity of relative and ultimate with my heart, not intellect, really got me there. It’s very powerful.

For the second part of this, let’s fast-forward to a few years ago. I was experiencing extreme pain in my back. The MRI and other tests showed that I had spinal stenosis, which is a condition in which the bone has closed in around the nerves that come out from the spine, pinching those nerves, creating pain, and in my case, also some degree of paralysis. There were times when I would be standing and feel my legs gave way and collapse to the ground. It was scary.

The doctors here at UM Hospital wanted to do surgery, a 14-inch incision on my back to cut into the bone that was pinching the nerves. I had bulging discs, and they wanted to put in a metal screws to push the spinal pieces apart to relieve pressure on the discs. There was a good chance that this would work, maybe an 80% chance that I would have real relief after the surgery. There would be six months of recovery and a brace, gradually strengthening after that, 80% chance all would turn out well. There was also a 20% chance that they could nick the spinal cord and I would end up paralyzed from the waist down, based on the various pictures and tests they took, and where the nerves were in relation to the surface.

What was I going to do? I was in agonizing pain, and I couldn’t walk. Ultimate and relative. The relative reality: there is this stenosis. It’s real. I must deal with it in some way. The ultimate reality: the perfect spine is there, just like the one who has never been unworthy is there. The ever-perfect spine is there. How do I return to that ever-perfect spine? My choice was to turn to the entities at John of God’s Casa de Dom Inaçio. In meditation, they said they thought they could help me, no guarantees. For them to be able to help me, instead of relating to the spine as damaged and something that had to be fixed, I needed to meditate and know the strong perfect spine, to visualize it; to feel the places of blocked energy and invite the simultaneity of a full flow of energy; to love my spine. I needed also to do the work of asking, what does this inability to walk protect me from? In what ways am I allowing myself to shrink back from being the fullness that I am?

I can only say it’s been two years now, and they continue to work on me. I can stand up and the back is strong. I don’t walk perfectly, (demonstrating, inaudible). The best thing is there’s no pain. I still have bad balance, related to my lack of middle-ear balance, but there’s no pain, I can stand erect, and my body isn’t hunched over. I’m starting to love my spine and know the innate perfection that’s capable gradually of expressing itself. It’s not going to be instant, because the physical body is the heavy density part of this, and it takes time to shift itself from distortion into perfection. But the body is capable of expressing that innate perfection.

These two experiences, with unworthiness and with my body, have taught me so much about what heals, how we heal, how we support healing or block healing. It’s been amazing. I’m fully convinced now that, I won’t say that everything can heal— I suppose I’m not convinced that if my arm ended up being cut off, I could grow a new arm. I probably could but I don’t believe it yet, so I probably can’t because I don’t believe it! I’m not going to invite an accidental amputation of a limb in order to learn that. I pass. I’ll trust that I could do it if it I had to, and not push it.

The process is just not becoming self-identified with the illness. Ask the question, what does this illness protect me from? If I was not experiencing this, what might I be experiencing? For example with my deafness, I found very early on the part of me that did not want to hear the screams of the world, the cries of agony of the world. I found past-life connections. I’m not saying that I became deaf because I did not want to hear the screams of the world; I became deaf because the nerves were oxygen-starved during childbirth, for whatever reasons. There was a genetic predisposition to this happening. I became deaf for many reasons. But the deeper healing is that while the ears still don’t hear, there’s nothing karmically holding me to being deaf anymore. I still feel that eventually I’m going to hear.

What blocks healing? What is healing? Returning to the ever-perfect. Okay, enough from me. I’m going to pass this to Tavis.

Tavis: I’m honored that I’ve been asked to speak about the allopathic medicine and the energy that I use. Often people ask, how did I even start using energy being trained as an MD? I’m also Native, and 20 years ago I apprenticed with a Medicine person, in a very strict, traditional Native training for what we call a Ceremonial Elder. People of the non-Native communities often refer to that as a shaman path. We don’t use that term. It was during this journey that I became connected to my higher self and began to learn about spiritual healing. I was fortunate about a decade ago to undergo treatment by my helpers to eradicate some health issues that, as an MD physician I would never have believed was possible. And so that began the journey of learning from these helpers how to help others to learn in similar ways.

Now does this mean that I don’t use allopathic medicine or I don’t believe in it anymore? No, I sincerely believe that allopathic medicine with our procedures and our medications are very helpful. And the other modalities— chiropractic, naturopath, massage, various and sundry of other modalities are helpful as well. And at any point in our healing path, some components are going to be helpful to us and some components are not.

But overall what we need for healing is healing of our spiritual and our emotional and psychological self, because those are tied inherently and deeply with our physical body and our energy centers that are there. We can attempt to heal just physically, but often some of those illnesses will come back because we haven’t done the other work of the spiritual, emotional, and psychological healing. So learning how to combine these many aspects, is what we’re using now. I’m using the term “we” because I’m working with a very high energy group of healers we call the Brothers and Sisters of Light. And why do they need someone like myself or Barbara, other people, to channel or facilitate this healing? It was explained to me to consider a fiberoptic cable. It’s wound with insulation, and when you get fully-insulated fiberoptic cable, you get a very clear message, like when you’re looking at your TV. If your cable is working well, you’re happy because the insulation is all intact. But if you get a little nick in it, it doesn’t work so well and your picture is all jumbled up. And you make all these calls to Infinity, or Xfinity— probably we should call Infinity, but we’re calling Xfinity! But what they explained is, those of us in 3rd density form that help facilitate these healings and can channel, we are creating that connection, and creating sort of that insulation. We’re able to help facilitate that message in a much clearer aspect than if it was just coming without one of us to help ground that and pass it on to the individual that we’re working with. The spirit realm needs a 3rd density being to optimally connect to another 3rd density being.

So using that channeled connection is a teamwork approach and a process that’s not only the healers’ and myself, but the patient’s. The patient is integrally involved in this. It’s not miracle healing. We’re not going to put you on a table, wave our hands and say, “Ah, you’re cured! You’re thinking.” This takes work.” Yes, it takes more work than taking a pill every day. You need to work on your psychological, your mental, your emotional issues. We give specified meditation healings, imagery done specifically for whatever process we’re trying to help you heal. And this involves you in this intricate process. And as we go forward this evening, the other spirit doctors and Aaron are going to talk more in depth about what those processes are, and why it’s so important. But this is how I am melding the allopathic and spiritual. I’m fortunate enough to have almost 30 years of medical practice and a broad understanding of diseases and illnesses, and I can use this information in combination with the help from the healing entities to directly affect what is going on in the physical body in a much more direct way. And this is what patients have said that have had some other types of energy healing, is that we’re being very direct. And this direct approach is quite beneficial in addition to the processes they’re doing which we call “the homework”: their meditation and their working on their other issues.

I think this is where we’re going to take a break, now…

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Part 2

Tavis: I’ve been asked to give a few examples of what our healing process looks like.

A gentleman came who has bad diabetes and vascular disease, meaning he had a lot of arteries that were blocked. He had stents in the arteries in his legs to help the blood flow, but even those stents were blocked, and his vascular surgeon said there was nothing more he could do, he gave him an exercise program. But every time the gentleman walked, he had a significant amount of pain. So he came saying that he was tired of physicians and surgeons anyway, even if they could do anything for him, and wanted a different approach.

We began to work. After the first session he came back in a week. I said, “How’s your neuropathy? “which is nerve pain in the hands and feet of diabetics. He said, “They don’t hurt anymore, and I actually forgot about them.” It’s interesting that nerve pain actually responds really well to energy work, and I think that’s because of the electrical components of it. His legs, he had 5 days of pain-free walking, and then he started to get some pain again the next couple of days. So we did some more work, another treatment, and gave him homework. We taught him how to do meditation healing with some imagery to help keep the vessels in his legs open and the nerves healthy. And after 6 weeks of weekly sessions he could walk without pain. He had no neuropathy in his hands or his feet. And he actually had pulses in his feet, which he did not have pulses when we started. So that was very exciting.

We had another woman come in that had a neurogenic bladder, which meant that she couldn’t urinate without using a catheter, the bladder wouldn’t contract. She would hold up to 700cc of urine in her bladder; normal is around 30cc. 100cc is okay, but when you get much above that it can become a problem with infections and such. So she was catheterizing on a regular basis to get rid of the urine.

When I worked with her, it felt like something was going on in her back. So we did a treatment, and then she came back the next week, and she said, “I can urinate, and I think I’m getting rid of almost all my urine.” I said, “Just to be safe, catheterize at night. We’ll get some studies.” I wanted to look at her back. So we got an MRI of her back, and we got an ultrasound of her bladder, something we call a PVR, post-void residual, looking at how much urine is left after one urinates. When I saw her the following week, the MRI showed that she had a disc pinching on her nerve, something that the radiologist was calling cauda equina which typically needs surgery to correct or else you can develop paralysis from below the point where it’s pinching on the nerve. Her post-void residual was now down to 100cc from 700cc. Subsequently she can urinate on her own, she doesn’t need to use the catheter anymore. And we prevented her from needing surgery to release the impingement on the spinal cord.

Another person recently developed a number of kidney stones. Most of them passed but one got stuck, which is not uncommon if it is large. Urine backs up and causes the kidney to swell, we call this hydronephrosis. After a month this person decided that they needed more assistance because they weren’t going to be able to clear the stone. I said, you’ll need to see the urologist, which will take you a week, and you’ll need to undergo a procedure, or you can let me try and work on you now.

So I worked on him; it doesn’t take long, 5 minutes. The next day he called saying he was passing fragments of stone. He happened to be an ultrasound tech. He checked the ultrasound. The stone was gone that had been stuck in the ureter. Two weeks later the hydronephrosis was gone. All this without requirement of anesthesia and lithotripsy and other procedures they would have had to do to get rid of that stone.

And we have many other illnesses and health issues that have improved: Dysarthria from stroke, her speech therapist called in the other speech therapist in the clinic to listen, she was amazed. We had a kid that was having facial tics and couldn’t focus in school. That’s gone, and he’s doing well in school. Just a myriad of disease and illness processes that are improving. And people are feeling lighter and happier because they’re also healing their spiritual and emotional selves. So it’s very exciting.

Q: Do they also do spiritual or emotional work to help with these conditions?

Tavis: Yes. Part of their homework is to work on their own spiritual and emotional issues as well as the imagery that we give with the meditation healing.

Q: How do you determine what the emotional blockages are?

Tavis: We’re going to go through this with the other spirit doctors that are going to come in, who are going to address these blockages in more detail. So we’ll answer that in a little bit.

So I’m going to turn this over to Aaron…

Aaron: My blessings and love to you all. I am Aaron. Let’s step back a bit, into intellect and philosophy, to use it as a foundation.

Jeshua said, come back to the Garden. Come back to knowing your innate perfection. The seeming distortions which are real on the relative level are nonexistent on the ultimate level. But because you hold onto them— Barbara used the example of her feelings of shame and unworthiness. There was a strong self-identification with these. She had to be willing to ask, when I am not being the one who is unworthy, who am I? What if I’m not unworthy? And to regard the fear, “what does unworthiness protect me from?”

If one believes oneself to be unworthy or limited in other ways, does not understand one’s unlimitedness, one then has an excuse. “I can’t do it. I can’t change the suffering in the world or in myself or in my community. I’m small. I’m helpless.” But you are huge. You can do anything.

What if you try and you cannot do it? That’s part of the fear. For some, it’s more frightening to think of letting people down than not trying at all, or it can be more frightening. The opposite side of it: what if I can do it? What if I really am that powerful? But because you have deep intention to live your lives without harm and with love, and because you have not yet fully resolved the negative emotions— they still arise— there’s fear of your power. If you are infinite, unlimited, and anger comes up, you could blow up the world with that anger, or at least that’s the fear. You see that fear of their power in little children, and then they start to become rational and realize, “I can’t really blow up the world.” But at some level there’s fear of knowing your power.

As Jeshua reminded you, you came into the incarnation to co-create a universe of love, a higher vibration. Quite literally, to help shift this heavier density Earth into a higher vibration. What do I mean by higher or lower vibration? I think this experience becomes more accessible when you think about contraction versus spaciousness.

I’d like you all to clench your fists, make yourself tight. Make yourself small. Can you feel that energy can’t easily flow when you’re contracted like that? Tension. You may contract with the thoughts like, “I can’t do anything.” Or with anger held down, tight. (pause) Now I’d ask you to bring your hands together. Breathe deep, fill the chest, open the chest, the pelvis. Say thank you, thank you. Can you feel how that changes your energy? Can you feel the spaciousness in thank you? Can you feel it?

Years ago, I gave a number of sequential classes, that you can probably find on the Archives, on energy. Let’s talk about this briefly.

Contracted. I put something in the hand and the hand closes around it. And then I give it back, and the hand opens. That’s a natural and balanced contraction. The breath comes in, and then flows out, the chest contracting and expanding; a balanced contraction. Balanced contractions are healthy. As a human, your whole life is filled with these balanced contractions.

When the contraction becomes unbalanced, tight, contracted, it is a cause for distortion. For many people, the whole body is contracted most of the time. The opposite, not to contract at all, to just stay spacious, well you can’t live that way. To breathe, to chew, to give and take, there must be some degree of contraction. How do we invite balance?

Think of a river carrying logs. The logs are flowing smoothly down the river, sometimes crashing into each other, but mostly flowing smoothly. But there is a dam, so as the logs flow down river, eventually they tighten against each other. There will be a lot of contraction, hyper movement. Then the logs become so impacted that they stop; they can’t go anywhere. Logjam. You might think that the remedy would be to push harder, to break up the logjam, but the more logs you push into it, the more it becomes jammed. If you remove some logs, gradually there’s space again.

When negative emotion arises, emotions like fear, grasping, or anger, and the body contracts, and then you think, “I should fix it,” that “I should” is just like putting more logs into the network, contracting and contracting and contracting.

What brings spaciousness? A favorite teaching of mine: that which we do not love comes as teacher. We begin to see the contraction around the emotional, mental or physical issues. If we remember, “This has not come to harm me; this has come as teacher— thank you,” just that change of energy allows the heart to open, “Thank you,” opens the whole system. It allows the energy to flow again.

We’re here today primarily talking about physical healing, but also emotional and mental. When you fight with whatever distortion has arisen, try to get rid of it or to fix it, you pull the whole body into a contracted state. Friction occurs. Eventually with that friction, the body will wear itself out. If you do not contract around unpleasant catalyst but remind yourself just to stop and say, “Thank you, teacher. This too has come because I have come into the incarnation to learn to practice love. Thank you, teacher. I will hold my heart open, even to this,” then you don’t contract around it. Then the body does not deepen into that particular distortion and become more and more ill.

I want to be careful here. I am not suggesting for those of you who have some ongoing ailment that you are making yourself sick, only that you are following the habitual tendencies of the human. And if you will remember that what you came here to practice is love, spaciousness, cultivation of an open heart rather than fear, and ask yourself, “Right here with fear, where is love? Right here with pain, where is release from pain?”, this to me is the path to healing.

There are many causes of dis-ease, physical, mental and emotional. There is one clear path to healing in all of these situations, and that is to remember the power of love. It is normal for the human when something hurts to think, “I need to fix it.” But can you feel how just with the word “fix” you begin to contract? How about, “I choose to love it.”? Is that different? Which has more contraction, “I need to fix it” or “I choose to love it”? With “I choose to love it” you also have the intention to release it. You’re not loving it and hanging onto it, you’re loving it and letting it go. But you are not trying to fix anything.

The interesting thing is, when you give energy to fixing, you are giving energy to the distortion. This re-energizes the distortion. It keeps it going. Barbara mentioned her back. The primary learning for her of the first 6 months of back pain was, every time her back froze up with pain, to stop and breathe, feeling the expansion of the pelvis, opening. She was invited to learn the anatomy of that part of her back, a combination of muscles, nerves, and so forth called the lumbar plexus. The stenosis was in the lumbar spine. She began, with mindfulness, to watch the small contractions, not just pain in the spine but to observe what was painful. The whole spine? The whole lumbar spine? No. Where was the pain? The nerves being pinched. Well, when she breathed and made more space in the pelvis, the nerves were not as pinched. Then gradually it could open. She became more adept at identifying the specific areas of pain rather than just, “Oh, my back hurts.” Then, not, “Fix my back that hurts,” but, like holding a child that’s crying, “Oh…”, comforting her back in that way. Loving her back, not trying to fix it. This is what promotes healing.

Your body is a wonderful tool for learning because it’s so responsive. As soon as you close up there’s going to be pain. As soon as you try to fix there’s going to be even more pain. As soon as you breathe and open, pain will recede. So I think you learn faster from the physical body than the emotional and mental bodies. “Thank you.” But that doesn’t mean you want to perpetuate the pain, only to choose. I choose to release this, to release my whole long-term relationship with it; to see any karma that’s holding this to me. I choose to live without this kind of pain and without suffering. It is possible. But keep in mind, whatever you do not love comes as teacher. It is not there for you to fight but to pay attention to. “Thank you, what have you come to teach me?”

Let us move on here. We have karmic, environmental, physical, emotional, mental causes for dis-ease or distortion. We have many supports for healing. Love is the primary one. Knowing your innate spaciousness. Let’s move on to the question, what blocks healing? I’m going to pass this to Tavis.

Tavis, I am going to stay in the body at this point, so that if you want one of the other entities to come in, they’re very available.

Tavis:  We’re going to discuss blocks to healing. The basic understanding is, whenever we have these blocks it interferes with the energy and the love and light that’s flowing through us to help us heal. I’m going to name a block and ask that Aaron or Father John or Dr. O or anyone else who wants to chime in can discuss it in further detail.

One of the first ones on the list is self-doubt.

Aaron: I am Aaron and I am asking who would like to comment…

Father John: I am Father John. I am happy to be here with you. Barbara has been practicing with us, not having to go back to Barbara-consciousness,  but being able to let us move the body back and forth between us. We will do that for as much as we are able. And I am not as practiced in speaking through her body, so if I drop the voice, please let me know.

What is self-doubt? It’s not knowing the divine self. It’s identifying with the small self. I personally find that this self-identification with limitedness is a primary block to healing.

Tavis: I agree, that when we do not believe in our own ability to be healthy or to heal, we block the way to healthiness.

FJ: Then the next question is, what supports this self-doubt? What cements it in place? And this goes back to what Jeshua said, about the belief, “I must scour all the negativity off myself before I am able to return to connection to the Divine. I am not capable of that so I will keep myself small.” So my question then is, and this is not just a spiritual question but is also a psychological question; we see this kind of belief in one’s own limitedness, one’s refusal to acknowledge the divinity of the self in both what I would call healthy and unhealthy individuals. Those who have a healthy physical body seem to be able to maintain that body even with this denial of the radiance of the self. So I wonder and would like to dialog with you about what you think is happening, because this is one of my challenges. I see people come to me as a spirit doctor, seeking healing who hold onto the sense of limited self and self-doubt, and then I can work with them to help move them spiritually through the self-doubt and into embracing the self. Then the physical healing can follow. But I see those who do not seem to have this attachment to a limited self, and yet the body does not seem to heal. I have some thoughts about this, but I wonder what you have seen of this.

Tavis: Along with the self-doubt and absence of divinity for oneself I think is linked unworthiness and shame. I agree, I don’t totally understand why some people are ill without the concept of their own divinity, yet others appear healthy. Perhaps that is where a difference is. They appear healthy but maybe are not as healthy as we see them.

FJ: I understand what you’re saying, Tavis. We need to keep in mind that each lifetime is just like that, (snapping fingers) and that the belief in one’s limitedness, the belief in… the feelings of unworthiness, all of this may not present in this lifetime. And yet, because they have presented in past lifetimes, the body moves into the ailments. We cannot just say we need to get past feelings of limitedness and unworthiness and so forth in this lifetime to heal. However, most people do not have access to the past lifetimes.

So what I personally find most helpful when somebody who does not seem to have much self-doubt or self-negation, feelings of unworthiness, but they’re moving into a limited space, the body is expressing dis-ease…

— One moment please. I am not nearly as articulate as Aaron. I need help to find the right words…

Aaron: I am Aaron. I understand what Father John is saying; let me see if I can articulate it.

We’re talking about the soul that is constantly growing from one lifetime to another. It moves into a negative physical pattern in one lifetime, that may present the human an opportunity not to move into the habitual patterns of shame or unworthiness or fear, but to love oneself with that physical pattern. That can present a very strong pathway to healing in this lifetime, and karmically can shift the whole karmic habit, when something unpleasant or challenging arises, of closing down into limitation. So that the person may move into increasing physical discomfort, even die, and yet there is profound healing because they no longer believe themselves to be the one that is impotent, incapable, limited. They know the wholeness of the self, and with that base in the next lifetime will not have the need to create such disease— I don’t want to use “create” because that can be interpreted to mean your fault, you created it. They may not have the need to participate in such disease. If the body still has certain karma that has it pick up certain patterns of cancer or heart disease or Alzheimer’s or whatever, it will do so. But there’s much more power to drop that off and heal from it because the karma that perpetuated this from lifetime to lifetime to lifetime has passed, has been liberated.

Tavis: So you are saying they can heal the mental/emotional karmic issues without actually recognizing their divinity, and move on in the next lifetime with better physical health.

Aaron: Not quite. Let me bring Father John back.

FJ: I am Father John. In Lifetime A, our human expressed the physical distortions, and then the fear and hatred of the distortions, the sense of shame that he could not heal it, and such. And then he passed away from Lifetime A. In Lifetime B he came into a body that had certain similar conditions, with an intention of allowing the arising of certain similar distortions, to see if the heart could stay more open to the self and not move into the ideas of shame and unworthiness. There was intention to know the wholeness of the self.

The mental body heals. The karma heals. Even the emotional body heals, but the human may still die of that ailment. In the next lifetime, that ailment may come up again because they have not fully resolved the conditions out of which that ailment arises. Of course there are some that are beyond conscious control, the genetic and environmental conditions. But if in Lifetime C, as that ailment begins to express, instead of an attitude of either fear, “Look what’s happening to me,” or an attitude of, “It’s not fair, I’m helpless,” or “I must fix it,” if instead they say, “Oh, this is arising, and I can hold this with love, knowing that it is here for a reason, and I do not have to be afraid,” if they can do that, that is the ground for healing it.

How many lifetimes or how many times in one lifetime do you repeat that particular ailment before you can finally say, “Oh, okay. I don’t want this but here it is again. And this time I release it completely. Now it can heal.”? You know the potential for healing, so that one can simply take care of it without fear. If you get a splinter in the finger, are you afraid? You just say, even with a big splinter, “Oh, it will have to be removed.” That’s all. Not, “What did I do wrong, that I have a splinter?” Just, “Here is a splinter.”

Tavis: You touched on fear as a component of illness. It is a block. Can you talk about fear of power, fear of change, fear that blocks healing?

FJ: Fear is a contracting emotion. Aaron talked about contracting and expansion. When there is contraction, no energy can move, nothing can heal. Aaron may be better suited to respond to this part of it. But I know that what you teach here at Deep Spring is the mindfulness that recognizes the contraction of fear without becoming caught in self-identity with fear. It arose out of conditions— Aaron, am I saying this right? Yes— it arose out of conditions, it’s impermanent, it will pass. I don’t have to believe that this fear makes me bad. I don’t have to contract my body. Rather, if you learn that you have some very frightening disease. “What am I going to do?!” Fear. And then you look at your options. I can continue to be afraid. I can try to push away and deny the fear, which doesn’t really get rid of it in any way, just buries it. Or I can open my heart both to the physical ailment and to the fear. When I hold my heart deeply open to both the ailment and the fear that arose with the ailment and say Aaron’s, “Thank you. What have you come to teach me?”, then always that learning will be accessible. As the energy field opens and you begin to see the simultaneity, as Aaron spoke of it, of the ever-healed and the distortion, you can more consciously say, “I choose to live in the ever-healed, not to be self-identified with the distortion but to take care of the distortion, as is appropriate with traditional or energy medicine, with surgery, with massage, with whatever is best suited to help support the release of that distortion.” But there’s no contraction because there’s no longer self-identification of fear. Fear is also seen as arisen from conditions and not as the self. Only then can the body heal.

Now what I find, when I work with healing, with those who come to me for healing, is that most of them have carried the same or related distortion through many lifetimes.  In other words, one may have bad knees and in another lifetime, painful hips, but they’re part of the same distortion. I can support, I can help to re-grow the cartilage in the knees, for example, but that doesn’t release the real distortion. The distortion is the whole idea, “I cannot get up and run! It’s not safe to be big and bold in the world. I must live myself as limited.” But when we challenge people spiritually to explore “who” is limited, what is this whole idea of limitation, what does it protect you from, and begin to invite them to heal the karma that cemented the idea of keeping the self small and in place, to look at the emotional body and what keeps that small – and we’ll talk more about this – when I invite people to begin to look at these questions, then there’s access. Anything I do to help re-grow the cartilage in the knee maintains itself rather than falling away 6 months later.

Many years ago when she first came to the casa and asked for help to hear, the incorporated entity asked Barbara, “Why do you wish to hear?”  She reflected in meditation, then was asked, “what do you choose not to hear?” It was only when she had done her deep work with these questions, work which she thought she had already done but not as deep as needed, only then were they able to begin work with the actual ear and related nerves. Meanwhile, at the Casa she was offered support to go deep and find the answers within.

This gets us back to what blocks healing.

Tavis: Let’s talk about anger— anger against the illness, anger about things in our environment, people, careers…

FJ: Dr. O will come in…

Dr. O: What a joyful thing to join all of you here in this way! One of my specialties is, was, in a past lifetime, parasitology and the eradication of certain kinds of parasites. Now in my present work as a spirit doctor, I’m more aware that when there are parasites in the body, it’s more often a result of very low movement of energy in the body, which is caused by the contractions of held anger. I’m not saying held by anger— anger will arise— but held anger, identification with the anger.

Parasites and also bacteria thrive when there’s not a smooth flow of energy in the body. When the body is open, energy flowing, anger comes— ahhh, (as Aaron’s words) breathing in, I am aware of the anger. Breathing out, I hold space for the anger. The anger arose and it will pass, and it is not who I am, so I can let go of it. Not fear it, but acknowledge, right now it’s here. Right here with anger, where is that which is not angry? But for the one who does not choose to move in that direction, my experience as I attempt to support healing in that person is that as I literally release bacteria and parasites from the body, and the person feels movement, the movement startles them and frightens them so they close up again, thus creating the ground for the regrowth of the parasites and bacteria.

So for healing, the emotional and mental bodies must come along with the physical. One must do the work on the emotional and spirit level. You are not here to be free of parasites and bacteria, although that’s certain a more pleasant way to live! You are here to learn love, starting with yourself.

Tavis: Would you agree that this low energy body with poor energy movement contributes to other illnesses, such as autoimmune and cancers?

Dr. O: Absolutely. So I’m speaking here from my specialty in a recent past lifetime, but also in many lifetimes before that, working with medicine, and of course a much less technically learned medicine, in those days. Not really even aware of the anatomy of the body, at sometimes. But from my present perspective, any blockage of energy in the body deeply supports all kinds of ailments.

However, the reverse is not true. For the person who has understood this and deeply opened the body, found that there is not absence of fear but an openhearted relationship with fear and negative emotion, for this person autoimmune diseases, parasites, bacteria, joint ailments – these can still arise. It doesn’t mean that they’re not allowing the energy to open, only that the body needs time to heal. And if we’re talking about somebody who’s 90, they may not have the time. If we’re talking about somebody who has an autoimmune disease who is 30, then certainly it can heal.

Tavis: We see very little parasite infections in America these days.

Dr. O: That is a blessing.

Tavis: Right. Many bacterial infections that are treated with medicines, but they could be prevented or better treated with addressing the mental/spiritual/emotional issues we are discussing. We see much more autoimmune and cancer these days.

Dr. O: The autoimmune is a fascinating area. Why is the body eating itself? There’s something very deep there about the body’s attacking itself, and I think this is very much geared toward shame, unworthiness, and other emotions. I would conjecture that there is more autoimmune ailment in this country than in other parts of the world. That’s a conjecture; I have never explored that. Have you?

Tavis: I have not, but it is interesting.

Dr. O: I’m thinking of countries where there is almost no sense of unworthiness and very little autoimmune disease. And this would be a very interesting study for somebody, to look at the correlation between self-negative emotion and autoimmune disease.

I’d like to bring in Father Kindness…

FK: I come here with a sense of wonder, and I understand there are many people there on that screen?

Tavis: On the other side, all over the world!

FK: All over? Not just on the screen?

Tavis: They aren’t in the screen; they are in their homes in other states and countries.

FK: (to people on screen) Can you feel my energy? Can you feel me when I offer love to you? I don’t know if we can hear you back; some of you answer me: can you feel my loving energy expressed toward you? … (The screen program at this event does not allow Father Kindness to see the faces of people connected remotely; the tech monitor asks them to wave if they can feel his energy.)

Tavis: She can see the people in their homes and they are waving, “Yes!”

FK: (Father Kindness walks over to the screen? There is laughter.) I love you! I love you!  (The remote connectors are laughing with joy.) So this is a wonderful tool.

Coming back to the question, bacteria thrive in certain kinds of acidic conditions, well not just acid conditions, but there are certain kinds of conditions in which bacteria most thrive. Stagnation is a condition, lack of energy flow, imbalanced acid or alkaline conditions. When the body is out of balance, this imbalance is related to contraction and expansion, to Aaron’s held contraction, or even held expansion, but in either extreme, not being able to take anything in. If you don’t contract, you don’t breathe in, you can’t take anything in. Expansion in a forced way is also a form of armoring; can you see that?

Bacteria, my sense is that bacteria is going to become a greatly increased problem in the Earth in the coming decades because of the overuse of antibiotics. It’s simply giving these bugs an opportunity to expand themselves and take over, and then you keep needing stronger antibiotics.

Most bacteria infection can be healed with energy, with, when I say light, I don’t mean the lamp, but— I would like you all to try this with me. Hold up your hands. “I am love. I am loved.” Draw it into yourselves. Bring the hands down to the crown chakra. Then reach up again. “I invite light and love into my body.” Touch the crown chakra gently, and you may also want to touch the third eye or the heart chakra. Actually, keep one hand on the crown chakra and bring the energy down to the sacral chakra, below the navel. If you can, using two fingers, the thumb and the little finger, one on the solar plexus and one on the sacral chakra. Little finger on the sacral chakra, thumb on the solar plexus, and one finger at the crown. “I invite light. I am light. I am love.

(pause while they do)

Thank you.”

Can you feel the energy begin to move down into the body? So many of you, especially those with strong spiritual practice, live with open upper chakras and ignore lower chakras. The lower chakras, because they’re ignored and pushed aside, create contraction and the whole gut contracts, creating a ground, a supportive environment for bacteria through the whole body. These are simple things that can be taught to school children, and children can be taught how to heal themselves. But nobody is doing that. I hope there are more people like you doing this kind of work with allopathic medicine and energetic medicine.

Tavis: It is my deepest hope to be able to teach doctors in the future these methods.

FK: So Aaron is asking Tavis and our participants, we had envisioned four sections of an hour, but we are far over with the late start. Aaron is asking us, are you all able to go on for another 10-15 minutes, then take a break, and then just have three sections? Is this okay for you? (yes) So let us continue this dialogue for another 10-15 minutes, take a break, and then move into Part 3.

Tavis: Another block is something we call secondary gain: when someone has an illness that prevents them from doing something they don’t want to, or obtain some type of treatment (ie more attention from friends or family; identifying as a victim “poor me, I cant do such n such or I should be treated a certain way) because they are ill, and they don’t really want to heal, but ask for help.

FK: The human organism is one complete physical/emotional/mental/spiritual construct. Your medical technology is quite advanced, in many ways. Your psychology, in terms of intellectual understanding, is advanced. Most of you— I can’t speak for the whole world, but people do come to me from all over the world for healing— many of you are very young, spiritually. When I say that, Aaron says I’m not saying what I mean. Aaron, how would you phrase it?… Many of you have aspired to mature spiritually but you’re stuck in certain misunderstandings about the self, such as the— I am channeling Aaron here— misunderstandings about the self, such as the need to limit the self. All that Aaron and Jeshua were talking about, the whole Garden of Eden idea. Until you fully embrace the knowledge that you are limitless, divine beings and that it’s safe to be that, you’re going to keep the self small, and then you’re going to keep stepping back from the possible physical healing, for the reasons you’ve stated.

So the aspect that most needs to be attended to here is the fear of being unlimited, powerful, and radiant. What is the fear about? I think as a physician, one thing you can begin to ask people is the question that Aaron often asks, “Is there anything this illness is protecting you from. Acknowledging that you do not want it— and I’m not suggesting you do want it, but if you simply relax and consider, is there anything that you feel you might be getting out of this illness?” And some people will be afraid to even think that way. They have a need to be the victim. Well, until they’re ready, they can’t heal. But when they are ready to consider this question, and begin to heal the causes that allow the disease to develop, then for many people you can release the ailment very quickly.

Aaron, I wish you to talk about this, please…

Aaron: I am Aaron. So let us go into the karmic causes, here. There are two levels of karma that I regularly see. One is karma that still has deep roots. One is karma that’s more based just on old habit. If it has deep roots, it’s hard for people to get past that karma right now. You do not yet have the kinds of support necessary, What I have seen as support, that addresses body, mind and spirit, is what is needed. Shamans of past generations were geared to heal both the spirit and physical body. Now there’s spirit healing; there’s physical healing. They are regarded as separate.  We need more trained shamans who have medical background like you do, and who have deep spiritual understandings and the ability to bring the two together. Then there are those who have released the deeper roots. A different kind of support will be most helpful. I will discuss this further, or another entity will do so.

FJ: For those who are still stuck, then, in the old karma, this is what I see as a new and very powerful area of medicine. For those who have released the self-identification with the karma and are more, simply acting, or the body is acting, picking up the distortions out of old habit, then a trained physician without a strong spiritual background— you have the spiritual background, but even those who don’t can begin to understand the distinction in the body, what’s holding this distortion in place. When they see it’s more superficial, they can begin to ask that question: are you ready to let this go? I can support you but I will not force you to let it go. If you want to hold onto it, that’s your right. But if you come to me as a doctor, I assume you intend to let it go, and I will support you.

 I know Aaron uses the practice of the Four Empowerments and Seven Branch Prayer, which are in his books. Aaron, what are the books? Path of Natural Light, Parts I and II. They’re also on the Deep Spring website archives. These are wonderful supports to releasing old habitual tendencies that do not have deep roots.

So then let’s go back to— Aaron and I are passing the body back and forth a bit. Aaron, do you want to come back in again? He says no, to continue. I am Father Kindness.

If the ailments have deep roots, you cannot force somebody to let go of an ailment even though they say they want to be free of it. You can only present them with alternatives. You must be very gentle not to lead them to believe, “This is your fault.” Only, to help them understand, “You are still getting something out of this, so that you’re holding it to you.” I think here is a place where some mixture of psychology and spirituality, perhaps through meditation, and traditional medicine, can work together. I know that Barbara and Aaron work with vipassana practice and having people look at what is arising in their experience; the body pain and distortions, and ask, what is it? From where has it arisen? Is there any attachment to it? What would it mean to let go of it? Working gently, not with an “I should,” but gently releasing, until one starts to understand the structure of the karma. Not necessarily seeing past lives, but understanding the structure of the present karma.

All of these different areas of medicine and spirituality can benefit by working together in ways that your present-day culture mostly has not yet considered. You have such advanced technical knowledge, in some ways, but the shamans of cultures long ago who had trust in their own inner vision, and could see just as well as an MRI can see, could understand and bring together the spirituality, the release of karma, to heal in ways that present medicine cannot heal.

Tavis: Is ancestral baggage the same as karma?

FK: No. Aaron, will you talk to this, please?

Aaron: I am Aaron. Father Kindness and I have been passing the body back and forth a bit. I hope we do not confuse you. But it really doesn’t matter which of us is speaking; just know that a loving entity is speaking. But I am Aaron.

When I think of ancestral baggage I think of literally the karma one has taken on from one’s physical ancestors, both family and of a wider group— cultural group, religious group, even human karma. The personal karma is different. For example, as I meet, counseling and working with people, there is a generation today, many of whom experienced the Holocaust from one side, one perspective or another. Many who experienced it, not personally but had parents and grandparents who experienced it, are carrying some of that “personal baggage” from it and in healing it through finding forgiveness for the places of fear and hatred in their own hearts, healing that in themselves. They don’t have to be thinking of the situation of the Holocaust, but they are helping to free the anger and fear and hatred of their ancestors. Those from the other perspective, who were among those who were doing such great harm, may experience the same thing. There’s often enormous shame and guilt in the incarnate self, without any real understanding of where it came from. It’s not personal karma, but they came to the incarnation with the intention to help to heal, to free some of the ancestors who are very much trapped in the terrible things they did and the self-remorse and self-hatred over those things.

Tavis: Can one heal, then, these longstanding ancestral issues by addressing one’s own guilt, shame…

Aaron: Absolutely. And this is the best place to release it. When you release it for yourself, you release it for everyone. So this is very powerful.

I would suggest we pause, here, Tavis…

Tavis: One last question: impatience around healing.

Aaron: Impatience around healing is really fear and contraction. It’s more of the same. When we come back, Father John will speak more to that.

Thank you all…

(break)

Continuing talk about parasites; start not recorded. On-line questions, not recorded.

Tavis: … I want to address a comment from the online community and acknowledge there are some communities in this country and other countries who live in endemic areas for parasites and have more infections with this type of disease. Third world communities in the USA with poor living conditions and inadequate public health programs are at greater risk than the general population in the U.S. Americans, when they travel, can bring back parasites too, that are often missed by physicians because we are not accustomed to looking for them.

My original comment was addressing more prevalent processes affecting most of the U.S. population. U.S. physicians are seeing more autoimmune and cancer processes than parasitic infections. My apologies for being national-centric and not including the rest of the world, however my scope of practice is limited to the U.S.

Barbara: A couple with a child who was about 3 came back from Brazil where they had been living. The child developed some scabs on her head. They were treating it as an insect bite. It didn’t heal, but was spreading. Aaron says Dr. O would know, but we don’t need the details. I’m not channeling Aaron, he’s just speaking through me. Something had bitten and laid larvae within, creating worms. In the hospital when it was identified, most of the doctors there had never seen this before, but apparently, it’s very common in South American countries. Aaron is saying, and then the US doctors wanted to treat it with surgery. Dr. O said to the family, no, what you need to do is to put some kind of sticky material on top that will deprive it of air, then remove the sticky material and it will pulled the worm out. No big surgery needed on this child’s head.

Tavis: Do we have other questions?

Q: My question is, you mentioned not giving energy to the distortion, but also doing what’s practical for the body in the world of reality.

Barbara: To give energy to the distortion is to approach the distortion with fear. Not, “Oh no, what’s happening? How do I fix it? How do I get rid of it?”, but, “Ah, this is present in me, and it’s not wholesome for me, so I choose to release it. To release it I will do this or that medical practice or diet,” or whatever it may be. But it’s a very gentle, I’m focusing on that which is already whole and returning to the wholeness, knowing that to return to the wholeness I release the distortion. But Aaron is saying, using the idea of a big splinter, not “Oh! I must go to the hospital! What will they do? They’ll have to make a huge cut in my hand!” Just, “Oh, here is a big splinter. Okay, I already see it out, and then I may go to the hospital.” And instead of making a huge incision, they just make a very tiny cut because the body is already releasing it.

Q: Thank you.

Tavis: One comment on that. Many times, we use imagery of the body as it should be, as its healthy self, so it can remember how to get to that healthy self. If all it’s known while it’s been ill is this ill part, it sees that as its normal self. So, we give it imagery of its healed self, and that helps as well.

Barbara: This question was brought up to me, for you, really, during the break. How do you treat something in both allopathic and energy medicine, if somebody comes to you with, I don’t know what— cancer, a broken arm, arthritis. These are very different things and I realize you can’t give one answer.

Tavis: I have to separate allopathic medicine from energy medicine practice by standards of care in America. In a primary care clinic, I only practice allopathic medicine. In the energy clinic, I use the same skills from the allopathic medicine, taking a history, understanding the pathology of the illness, the progress of the illness, etc. I use that with the other modalities of assessing psychological, mental, emotional issues that tie into the chakra energy centers, which directly affect the physical body.

The patient is given homework to address these issues on their own or with a mental health expert. Then we address the physical with light and love, divine energy. We do treatments and give them homework.

Barbara: What does bringing in light and love look like from your perspective?

Tavis: We can all do that now!

Barbara: Let’s!

Tavis: So, sit with palms up, feet uncrossed. I want you to take deep breaths. And as you take a deep breath in, you’ll imagine light coming in through your head to your chest. And when you breathe out, you’re going to see that light going everywhere, sort of like a sunburst going out your feet, out your hands, out your head. We call that “expanding your aura”. We want this divine love and light to go everywhere throughout your body. So, breathe in the light, breathe out, and push it everywhere. Breathe in the light, and push it out everywhere.

Once that light is going everywhere it allows the helpers and myself to work on your aura. I don’t actually touch your body during this process; we work on your aura and your energy centers. And we go through and help expand the aura, and then we concentrate on certain chakras and certain areas that need to be addressed.

The problems that we work on during the treatment are the problems that have come to us by the patient. I don’t do what people sometimes ask, which is a scanning of the body and picking out things that might be a problem. This is a teamwork, a partnership, that these problems we are working on need to be something that the patient is willing to work on as well.

So, keep breathing in the light and pushing it around. Many people say they feel a warmth and a tingling. This is that divine light and love moving through our system. This light energy can be used for healing, and we use it as imagery for areas we are intending to heal, such as for Barbara’s spine. You’ll (we will) imagine this light going into the discs and seeing them as normal. We imagine the light going into the vertebrae and we see them as normal. We imagine light going down the nerves and seeing them fully lit up and normal. We insulate around the nerves with the myelin sheath, is so important, seeing each as intact and whole. Everything is imaged as working as it should be. And we give the images twice a day so the body learns what normal should be, what healthy should be, instead of the illness that it’s had.

Does anyone want to comment on how they felt moving the light and energy around?

Q: Heat.

Q: I’m not sure where I was…

Tavis: That’s okay. You went into that healing space. That’s good. So we use this light and love to expand the body’s energy and use it for healing.

Q: Recently there was a pain patient who decided to end her life rather than continue with the pain. She had a brain tumor. She made headlines because she went to Oregon, I think, for the license to commit suicide. And I understood that. I have been in a situation where the pain was so great that I knew that if it lasted for too much longer I might have made the same choice. How do you as a patient— I mean, you’re sort of out of your mind. How do you work with that kind of pain and not contract? First you have to stop the pain, someone has to stop the pain in order to even think clearly enough to say, okay, what’s going on, what’s happening? What can I do for myself? So what do you do in those kind of instances?

Tavis: With my practice, we’re usually able to impact the pain, either decrease it or entirely eliminate it for a short period of time. And this motivates the patient and gives them hope that they can learn to work with it and eventually heal it.

Barbara: Father John will come in….

FJ: I am Father John. Pain is a statement that something is unbalanced in the body, something is moving into or holding a distortion. You are mammals. When there is pain and contraction and distortion, the habitual pattern for the mammal is to contract around the pain. The more you contract, the more you enhance the pain.

Doing any kind of work that limits the pain so the body may rest and remember a pain-free state or a lessened pain state, as you said, allows the body to recharge itself. To consider the possibility not just of fixing the pain, fighting with the pain, surviving the pain, but resting in a pain-free state.

So many of these skills have been lost in your traditional medicines. For thousands of years, shamans and other medical professionals understood how to support the body moving into a pain-free state so it could heal. It cannot heal with that degree of pain.

I think the only answer is going to be the eventual blending of the enormous knowledge that the allopathic medical professionals have and the understanding on the spiritual level. When the body is experiencing that kind of pain, it’s making a clear statement: Help! Help! Doing more surgery or whatever kind of treatments, or simply putting it on narcotic painkillers, doesn’t help the body.

From my perspective, I like Tavis’ kind of meditation. Aaron, do you want to lead this or shall I?

Aaron: I am Aaron. I would invite you to reflect on a situation that’s painful for you. Not specifically physical pain but also fear, sadness, grief, emotional pain, feelings of unworthiness or shame. These feelings have arisen because of conditions.

Close your eyes and join me. I’m going to bring you to a special waterfall that has very powerful, clear and pure healing energy. Let us walk through a beautiful wooded path. There are places where it’s shady and areas of sunshine. In those groves of sunshine fly hundreds of butterflies of all colors, so beautiful. Orchids growing on the trees. There are a rich, sweet smell and a gentle breeze.

We walk down this wooded path to where you can hear the waterfall tumbling over the rocks and into a shallow pool. Sit with me here on a bench that overlooks the waterfall and reflect on what it is you would invite the water to help you release. Physical pain, shame, grief, anger, perhaps even the sense of something darkly negative that is attaching onto you, something of the self, or something that is attached.

Whatever it is that you have been carrying, reflect on your intention to release it. Let’s use several examples, like severe back or neck pain, a feeling of shame or unworthiness, grief, or simply a sense of darkness and enclosing negativity. I turn to you gently as we sit on this bench. “This belongs to you, and you may hold it for as long as you wish to hold it. I will not take it from you, but I will support you in every way, if you hold the intention to release it.”

The first step, to hold this literally in your arms, in your heart. The very specific body pain, grief, anger, shame. Speak to it. “I have carried you around for what seems like an eternity. I have wanted to be free of you, and yet you seem to get stronger and stronger, hold ever more of my attention. There is a heaviness with you, so I can no longer see and know the light that I am. I may have welcomed you at first, because you served as diversion from something even heavier and more painful. Now I am ready to consider the possibility to release the hold you have on me. To set you free and you to set me free.”

Continue to speak to this guest from your heart. And pause and thank it, because in some ways it has given something to you. It has given you that diversion or sense of protection in some way. Speak to it from your heart. “It is time now for you to go. I no longer invite you to be a part of my life.” Pain, darkness, fear, anger, shame, confusion; whichever is most predominant. “I am ready to release you.” And I am going to walk this body down to this beautiful cleansing waterfall.

As I wade in and stand under the heaviest spray, letting it touch the crown of my head and wash over me and through me, in this process I release whatever is ready to be released.

No hurry, here. You must proceed gently. But when you are ready, take my hand, I will be with you, and your own highest self will take your other hand. Feel our love, feel our energy as we walk beside you. The painful body part, the painful emotion; we walk down the hill with it and gently step into the shallow water at the base of the falls.

Pause and speak again to this heavy weight that has been so attached to you, with as much love as you can offer it, saying, “Thank you for what you have taught me. And now I set you free and ask that you set me free.” And with that, we step under the flow of the water, not such a hard flow as to cause pain but definitely a strong and forceful spray. Breathing it in, feeling it coming into the crown chakra and through the body. Feel what flows over the shoulders and back. Invite this purifying water to wash away whatever has been held, has created pain, and is no longer useful. “I release it.”

Feel the possibility to be free of shame, of feelings of unworthiness or doubt. Feel the possibility to be free of the ongoing pain in the body, to allow this holy water to wash it away, the chakras and energy field are opening, the body releasing the contraction that has held this pain in place. Feel the possibility of fear or grief washing away.

Watch any little contraction that comes, saying, “Is it safe? Maybe I still need it.” Shh, it is safe or you would not be here. So, we let it go. It is safe. Letting the water flow through the place of pain, whether it is emotional pain in the heart, physical pain in the body, or even a sense of darkness from negative entities that have held onto you and led you further into fear and darkness. Deep breath, and with the exhale, “I release.” Breathing in, bring more of this water into you, and breathing out, releasing. And again…

If there is fear of such release, hold that in your arms, in your heart, and know the possibility to release the fear that blocks the release of the physical or emotional distortion. I hold your hand with so much love; you are safe. You have made the decision; now let fear go. Let pain go. Let contraction go. You do not need to hold it anymore; let it go.

Feel the body becoming lighter, both in weight, in the higher vibration, and in literally in terms of light, more and more light coming through as the density opens. You are light. Everything else flowing away, washing down the river and out to the see.

And now, together we’ll step out from under the flow of the waterfall. And just there, one step away, is a patch of brilliant sunlight bursting through the trees. Let it touch your head, your shoulders. The water was chilly. Feel the heat of that sunbeam warming you. And suddenly several beautiful butterflies land on your arms and shoulders: blue; orange; yellow!  Feel the joy and lightness, the gratitude to have let go of this burden.

And now, still holding my hand and that of your guide, let us climb the hill together. Back up through the trees, up to the plateau above in the sunshine. Rest there for as long as is useful, offering thanks for the release of this weight you have borne for so long. Know that you can come back to this waterfall as often as you wish. Know that I will always be here, happy to accompany you under the waterfall, to support your journey, and your own guide also. Each time you come, a little more darkness can wash off and a little more light emerge as you gradually release the contracted distortions and open to the true self.

(pause)

I would end this with the bell but it is not in my reach.

Thank you

Thank you

Thank you

Stretch; short break

 Aaron: I am Aaron. I think it would be useful to hear from those online who have questions as well as those in the room, in terms of more universal questions rather than, “What do I do with this pain in my neck?”

Tavis: I just need to qualify that the spirit doctors have decided that we will not address personal disease processes that are unique to one individual, i.e., this is not the format for a personal consultation.

Q: Tavis, thanks for all this, it’s wonderful. You were describing the exercise where we bring the light down into our heart and then push it out all over the body, and mind, I guess. So what I noticed was that in my own mind there was a concentration of energy that wasn’t receptive to the light. It would just stay there. It was like a contraction of energy. What do you say is a useful strategy in a situation like that, where something’s not responding when you’re giving it light?

Tavis: You continue to surround it with light and love. Typically, what will happen is that it will start to contract upon itself and dissipate. Another way is, you see the light as sort of like a laser, and you laser from the inside out, so that you make little pockets of light shining through, and then it can dissipate easier. But probably the core of the issue is, what is that darkness that’s not wanting to see the light? Looking at that, understanding what it is, and learning to heal that component, which would be under our spiritual/psychological/emotional component, that’s going to help heal that probably the best. Does that make sense to you?

Q: Yes. I actually didn’t think of asking it what it was. So that’s good advice, thank you.

Tavis: Let me know if it works.

Aaron: I am Aaron. I see this as a big cube of ice. It’s not going to melt like ice, but as we keep bringing light and offering heat to it, gradually it dissolves. There will always be small areas of blockage in any body. We don’t try to get rid of the blockage, which is just a way of creating more ice, pushing with force, but rather we hold the blockage with love. We hold it in the light. We trust that there’s nothing there but frozen water, and that as it’s held within the loving heart, it will dissolve. So never any force; but gentle perseverance, trusting the power of love.

Q: I want to ask about denial, the power of denial, and invalidation. These thoughts often go together in patients as well as in their doctors. I’ve been healing with a chronic illness that about 2 million people have, which is routinely dismissed. I think the mirror image of that in patients, who are mostly female, is self-invalidation. And so, I’d like to understand how we deal with our own self-invalidation and the denial of illness, both by ourselves and our caregivers. Thank you.

Father John: I am Father John. One can become caught. There may be invalidation by others, on the one side, “You’re crazy, there’s nothing wrong with you,” and to be caught in that invalidation, but also with a deep knowing, “there is something that’s happening that’s imbalanced in my body and it does need care”. Trusting that. But as reaction to message, holding onto the distortion, almost as reaction to the push of “you’re crazy; nothing is wrong,”  building a self-identity on the distortion. So, the caregiver, physician, whoever it may be, is saying, “You’re crazy, there’s nothing wrong,” and that can push you back into holding onto it as a reaction.

It’s important, when somebody is trying to invalidate your experience, to ask, what am I learning here? If somebody is invalidating my experience, and I am the authority on my experience, how can I more fully trust my experience? Because I cannot heal what somebody else invalidates so I cease to trust myself, and I cannot heal what I am hanging onto to try to prove to somebody that it’s real.

The balance, here, is knowing that you are the authority on your own experience, and simultaneously knowing every mundane experience is impermanent. You are the final authority on whether and when it will pass on. I know that can sound harsh to some of you who have suffered from chronic conditions. But, I am quoting the Buddha here: “You are what you think. With your thoughts you make the world.” If you believe this chronic condition is self, you will cement it in place. If you believe you must perpetuate it to say no to somebody who’s telling you, “You’re just making it up,” and it keeps getting it worse so they’ll finally believe you, you’re still cementing it in place.

Come to the balanced place of love, that says, “It doesn’t matter what they say. I know this is my experience, and I know it’s temporary. And I choose to release it.” Then, with the various supports like that offered by Tavis, that of your medical doctors, whoever— I don’t want to say specifically Tavis; that of your allopathic medical doctors, that of your spirit energy doctors, with the various kinds of support you have, once you’ve made the decision it’s time to let it go, then take it under the waterfall; let it go. I’m not trying to make it less than it is. I realize for some of you the chronic conditions have seemed to have held on fiercely for decades. But you still can let it go. Start the process, at least.

People come to me asking to heal, praying to heal, and yet still not ready to allow healing. What does this ailment protect you from? What might happen when it releases, that frightens you? This is your work, the first steps of the healing. If you are carrying a heavy burden, I may offer to take it, but you have free will. I cannot take it from you until you are ready to hand it to me. At some level, some people want me to force them to relinquish it and I will not do that. It would violate your free will.

Are there other questions?

from Zoom:

Q: This is for Tavis. You mentioned help from the spirit world in healing, and that is the title of my newly published book. I’m a physician, like you are, an allopathic physician, and have been to see John of God eight times to study his work, and also to assist him. I was also part of a Discovery Channel documentary on John of God.

We have a trance healer, one of few in the world, and when we go back in recent history, we have in England the use of attunement, which comes from a Harry Edwards work. What do you believe is the best way to ask the spirit world for help and healing?

Tavis: Part of the component of healing that is important is that people believe in whatever practitioner or healer they’re going to seek help from. So if that needs to be a full-trance channeler like John of God, then that’s going to work well for them. I did read your book (“Spiritual Healing, Help from the Spirit World” by Douglas E Busby) but I don’t remember who Dr. Edwards was. For someone like myself, I’m fully conscious when I’m working with the entities and the patient. So it just depends, I think, partially upon what the patient feels is going to work for them, as well as the skill and experience of the practitioner.

Q: Is there any suggestion from the spirit world that Barbara can give us?

Aaron: I am Aaron. We are here! I know you can’t see me. I’m presently connected to this body; my consciousness now is within this body, and also outside of it, but I’m not this body. I come as a friend, as a guide or teacher. Each of you has many guides. The whole spirit plane is available to you. You did not come alone. You came connected with your guides and with the promise that they would walk this journey with you. Then you slam the door in our faces and say, “You’re not real!” Well, if you want to believe we’re not real, how can you hear us? How can we help you?

You ask, “What is the best way to ask the spirit world for help and healing?” The first step is to open to the possibility that we are real and available, and to open a relationship with your own guides as the beginning of the process.  You don’t have to believe we are real. There just needs to be that, what is it from Coleridge, the “willing suspension of disbelief”. Just willing to consider the possibility, “Whether they are real or not, I open myself to the possibility that there is help beyond that of this mundane world.”

My dear ones, if you will meditate with some degree of regularity and reach the point in your meditation where there is, not zero self-identification but reduced self-identification with the physical and mental body, doors will open. Who are you when you’re no longer the physical body, when you’re no longer the mind, no longer the emotions? What remains? Gradually as the body quiets down in meditation, and the mind quiets down, something vast opens, a much deeper sense of who you are. Beginning to get even a glimmer of your true self gives you a ground for trust, that if you exist as spirit, other things exist as spirit, and that spirit is accessible, just as your own higher self is accessible. Positively polarized spirit deeply respects your free will. We will never force ourselves on you. But when you say, “Help me,” and you mean it, “I am open to this help,” we can come in and help you.

I see from the people that Barbara brings to the Casa that the ones who heal most deeply are the ones who are willing to consider the stories of the ego as stories that have arisen from conditions, and not to believe those stories. This is the old “Don’t believe everything you think.” Who am I when I’m not lost in these thoughts? I am Love. You start to know the power of the loving heart, the awakened self.

There are so many loving entities, who are all there to help you; and also present to help the “healer”, because when one such as Tavis comes in, whether he’s working with allopathic or energy medicine, when he comes in and says, “I am going to do this,” from the ego, nothing can happen. But when he comes in knowing he is co-creating with your own higher selves, with so many other spirits, with his own highest guidance for the highest good and with love, then everything can happen. This is why he sometimes speaks of his work as  derived from “we”.

So much of this work is beginning to distinguish ego for what it is, a construct that can be a useful tool in the incarnation if you don’t become its slave. As you begin to understand that it’s arisen to be used as a tool and then be laid aside, then you can co-create and the ego self can become a tool toward the healing rather than a block to the healing. I pause.

Tavis: I want to emphasize that part of my practice, which I didn’t really talk about, is empowering the patient to learn to heal themselves. I don’t want somebody coming back to me repeatedly for “me” to heal them, because I’m not the one that’s healing them. I’m going to teach them how to heal themselves. I can’t heal them. And that’s a critical part of my practice, is teaching people how to do that for themselves.

Q: Thank you for a wonderful answer, both of you.

Father John: I am Father John. As a spirit doctor, whenever I work to support the healing, to co-create healing for a person, I will never violate their free will, which includes their decision to hold onto the illness for now. But as soon as they even open the least bit, to say, “Maybe I’m ready,” I’m right there to help.

Think of the baby who dreams to walk but still holds on. It sees the adults walking around unsupported. “I want to do that, but I’m afraid.” The parent doesn’t pull away all the support. The parent just keeps holding the baby’s hand. The baby will take the lead. The baby at some point will release the hand and take two or three steps and plop down, maybe even cry. Stand up again, take the hand, take two or three more steps, release the hand, and this time it walks across the room.

My job as one who supports healing is to keep my hand out for as long as needed, encouraging you to let go of the hand when you are ready, and to know your own power to walk alone; to be the divine essence that you are. Thank you.

Aaron is asking, do we need to stop? It is after 9, I know some people must be tired.

The Mother: Well, I have not had a chance to speak tonight. (laughing and smiling) These men have been busy talking! Of course, I do love them all! I am the one you call the Mother, and I just want to greet you with so much love. To remind you, you are whole and radiant and beautiful and I love you. And I am always with you. And if the “healing” and work and meditation and all of it becomes too hard, just come and rest in my embrace and let me love you. Thank you.

So, shall we close? Are we finished?

I thank you all on behalf of all the Brothers and Sisters of Light, and I was teasing when I spoke about the men, because of course they come in a masculine form but they are no more masculine than I am feminine. We are all both masculine and feminine together. (smiling) But I like to hug you and they like to talk! That’s fine too; there is a place for each.

Thank you to all of you out there for being with us tonight. We love you very much. I will release the body to Barbara…

Barbara: Swing around in such a way that those online can see us… (The people online and present say good night to each other.) This is Barbara. I love you all! Thank you!

(session ends)